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I don’t get what Israel is doing here. They keep claiming the ICC has no jurisdiction and is a corrupt political organization, but also try to influence its in

I don’t get what Israel is doing here. They keep claiming the ICC has no jurisdiction and is a corrupt political organization, but also try to influence its inner workings and decision-making process. Also, seems like they picked the wrong target since they basically had nothing to pressure the prosecutor with, according to the report. The story is weird.

NomDePlum 2y ago
The story indicates plenty of pressure being applied does it not? Ranging from fabricated reputational damage, physical and psychological intimidation and attempts to threaten family members amongst other pressure being applied repeatedly over many years. For an individual does it get much worse than that? Particularly given the reputation of Israeli intelligence services.
- xenospn 2y ago
  Are you telling me that the full weight of the Israeli government, coming directly from the Prime Minister’s office, and the best they could do is “this will be bad for your career”? Something here is missing.
  - netsharc 2y ago
    Wouldn't you be intimidated/spooked if someone showed you pictures of your spouse walking around? An outright threat in words would be stupid, unsubtle, and reportable; mere suggestions let the thugs get away with things. Although pictures probably already cross the line... I remember seeing a female friend in a park, she was apparently on a walk-around-town date with some guy from Tinder. I didn't want to interrupt so I didn't approach them. Then I thought it would be a funny prank to follow them around the city and take pictures, and send them to her later. And then I realized, WTF, no, it would be creepy...
  - NomDePlum 2y ago
    Is this a reply to my post, or the one above? I stated it was much more than risk to career so a bit puzzled.
pygar 2y ago
They just don't care enough and think they can get away with it. It's thuggish behavior. They would rather the ICC didn't exist, the UN didn't exist, the Palestinians didn't exist.
linearrust 2y ago
> Also, seems like they picked the wrong target since they basically had nothing to pressure the prosecutor with, Makes you wonder what dirt they have on our politicians. The republican party acts like they work for the israeli government. Student loan forgiveness? Every republican politician cries "No way, we have no money for it". Affordable healthcare for americans? Every republican politician screams "Impossible, our debt is unmanageable.". Money for israel? Every republican politician shouts "Whatever israel wants. Damn the debt.". Peaceful protests by american college students. Every republican politician "Who cares? ... Oh it's against israel's genocide?... Send in the troops".

NomDePlum 2y ago

The story indicates plenty of pressure being applied does it not? Ranging from fabricated reputational damage, physical and psychological intimidation and attempts to threaten family members amongst other pressure being applied repeatedly over many years. For an individual does it get much worse than that? Particularly given the reputation of Israeli intelligence services.

xenospn 2y ago
Are you telling me that the full weight of the Israeli government, coming directly from the Prime Minister’s office, and the best they could do is “this will be bad for your career”? Something here is missing.
- netsharc 2y ago
  Wouldn't you be intimidated/spooked if someone showed you pictures of your spouse walking around? An outright threat in words would be stupid, unsubtle, and reportable; mere suggestions let the thugs get away with things. Although pictures probably already cross the line... I remember seeing a female friend in a park, she was apparently on a walk-around-town date with some guy from Tinder. I didn't want to interrupt so I didn't approach them. Then I thought it would be a funny prank to follow them around the city and take pictures, and send them to her later. And then I realized, WTF, no, it would be creepy...
- NomDePlum 2y ago
  Is this a reply to my post, or the one above? I stated it was much more than risk to career so a bit puzzled.

pygar 2y ago

They just don't care enough and think they can get away with it. It's thuggish behavior. They would rather the ICC didn't exist, the UN didn't exist, the Palestinians didn't exist.

linearrust 2y ago

> Also, seems like they picked the wrong target since they basically had nothing to pressure the prosecutor with, Makes you wonder what dirt they have on our politicians. The republican party acts like they work for the israeli government. Student loan forgiveness? Every republican politician cries "No way, we have no money for it". Affordable healthcare for americans? Every republican politician screams "Impossible, our debt is unmanageable.". Money for israel? Every republican politician shouts "Whatever israel wants. Damn the debt.". Peaceful protests by american college students. Every republican politician "Who cares? ... Oh it's against israel's genocide?... Send in the troops".