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engineering vs. science -> scientist-types find such hacks ugly whereas engineers have to pay bills and get things moving fast.

• TeMPOraL 2y ago
  And when engineers accumulate enough related hacks, scientist-types may discover a pattern and find a proper, general solution. But they wouldn't get there without the pile of hacks that are effectively meta-level empirical evidence.
  • Retric 2y ago
    AI research has mostly progressed when there’s been enough processing power to avoid needing to use the old style of hacks rather than any sort of generalization going on. AlphaZero vs Stockfish wasn’t some outgrowth of existing methods. They basically throw the old style away and started over. Object recognition, LLM’s etc all involved throwing what used to be unimaginable levels of data and compute at a problem that “suddenly” worked. Not saying the people at OpenAI aren’t clever, but instead that it wouldn’t have worked in 2000.
  • badrunaway 2y ago
    Yea, sometimes that happen. But I won't say it's must. Scientists work by funding. Engineers work on real world markets.