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I'm curious, if they don't hit the 300k needed, will they go back on their word and support python anyway?

courtewing 14y ago
I believe I saw a link in the comment of another light table submission that had Chris Granger saying they'd "probably" be implementing python one way or another. I could have also imagined the whole thing, so while that may serve to answer your question, you shouldn't take only my word on it.
- mparlane 14y ago
  It's a strange scenario to be in. Obviously he wants the extra 100k, but if he said "even if we don't get it I will still add python support" then no one would have donated that extra 93k. And then if he doesn't get the 100k and still adds it, then we have the feeling of "why did we donate extra if you were going to add it anyway?".
  - siavosh 14y ago
    I think getting into YC provided a lot more resources, making the rest of the Kickstarter goal a nice-to-have.
david_shaw 14y ago
It does seem a little silly that they're requiring so much more money for a language that obviously has such significant support. Also, I'm not sure how it would work for people who donated solely in hopes that Python would be supported. Since they've long passed their actual kickstarter funding amount, does that leave ~$100k worth of donors that won't get what they tried to buy, but can't get their money refunded? They'll probably get the money and we'll never know, but I would be interested to find out how they're planning to handle these issues.
- tikhonj 14y ago
  My understanding is that you (as a contributor) can withdraw your pledge before the time is up, so this isn't an issue.
- frio 14y ago
  Chris programs Clojure, and Light Table's demos have (so far) been about Clojure. It's not a ransom: it's "if we get another $100k, we will spend that money on hiring developers to work explicitly on this feature". It's a notice informing pledgers (is that a word?) about where any extra funding will go.
  - dkersten 14y ago
    His latest demo actually supported Python, so I think Python support is a given at this stage, regardless of how much money he gets on kickstarter.
SatvikBeri 14y ago
I posted the comment in another thread: If I recall correctly, when Light Table was accepted into YC, Chris sent out an e-mail saying that Light Table was now guaranteed to happen and that if the only reason you donated was to make sure the project went through, you can feel free to retract the pledge (no money is withdrawn until the actual end date). He also mentioned that with YC backing Python support was likely to happen sooner or later, but the $300k mark still puts Python in the "sooner" bucket.

I believe I saw a link in the comment of another light table submission that had Chris Granger saying they'd "probably" be implementing python one way or another. I could have also imagined the whole thing, so while that may serve to answer your question, you shouldn't take only my word on it.

mparlane 14y ago
It's a strange scenario to be in. Obviously he wants the extra 100k, but if he said "even if we don't get it I will still add python support" then no one would have donated that extra 93k. And then if he doesn't get the 100k and still adds it, then we have the feeling of "why did we donate extra if you were going to add it anyway?".
- siavosh 14y ago
  I think getting into YC provided a lot more resources, making the rest of the Kickstarter goal a nice-to-have.

david_shaw 14y ago

It does seem a little silly that they're requiring so much more money for a language that obviously has such significant support. Also, I'm not sure how it would work for people who donated solely in hopes that Python would be supported. Since they've long passed their actual kickstarter funding amount, does that leave ~$100k worth of donors that won't get what they tried to buy, but can't get their money refunded? They'll probably get the money and we'll never know, but I would be interested to find out how they're planning to handle these issues.

tikhonj 14y ago
My understanding is that you (as a contributor) can withdraw your pledge before the time is up, so this isn't an issue.
frio 14y ago
Chris programs Clojure, and Light Table's demos have (so far) been about Clojure. It's not a ransom: it's "if we get another $100k, we will spend that money on hiring developers to work explicitly on this feature". It's a notice informing pledgers (is that a word?) about where any extra funding will go.
- dkersten 14y ago
  His latest demo actually supported Python, so I think Python support is a given at this stage, regardless of how much money he gets on kickstarter.

SatvikBeri 14y ago

I posted the comment in another thread: If I recall correctly, when Light Table was accepted into YC, Chris sent out an e-mail saying that Light Table was now guaranteed to happen and that if the only reason you donated was to make sure the project went through, you can feel free to retract the pledge (no money is withdrawn until the actual end date). He also mentioned that with YC backing Python support was likely to happen sooner or later, but the $300k mark still puts Python in the "sooner" bucket.