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It's almost as if people believe in fairness and compensating people for their work. Also, it's worth noting that this is only true as long as we're stuck in t
by groby_b 2y ago
It's almost as if people believe in fairness and compensating people for their work.
Also, it's worth noting that this is only true as long as we're stuck in the "must train on the entire sum total of human output ever created" local minimum for machine learning. Given that most biological entities learn with much less data, this might well be the thing that prods ML research to using an approach that isn't "IDK, buy a few containers of GPUs, and half a DC of storage, see if that makes things better".
- nwsm 2y ago> It's almost as if people believe in fairness and compensating people for their work. Yet in this case we are talking about compensating the compilers/massagers/owners of the datasets, not the original authors from wherever the data was originally scraped.
- wizzwizz4 2y agoCopyright is hideously broken, but in theory: the owners only own it because they compensate the authors, which they only do out of an expectation of future profit (on average). That theory's a fantasy, because extractive systems involving gatekeepers get established, but in this specific case, enforcing copyright would make things fairer for authors. There's no extractive copyright-taking gatekeeper for websites: scrapers don't get copyright, so can't re-license the material they've scraped (unless it's permissively-licensed or something).