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Wasn't windows 10 supposed to be the last version of windows? I kinda recall a big marketing campaign saying just that

astrodust 2y ago
Windows 12: Farewell Tour
vel0city 2y ago
> I kinda recall a big marketing campaign saying just that You recall a bunch of publications saying that, but not an official statement from Microsoft. It was all conjecture based on one comment one person made during one breakout session at one developer conference.
- cjk2 2y ago
  Yeah and no. It was Jerry Nixon, speaking at a Microsoft conference on behalf of MSFT as a Microsoft employee, not on person opinion. He said that Windows 10 was the last numbered version of windows directly. Gartner did some faff around it and editoralised that into it being the last version of windows. Subtle difference.
  - vel0city 2y ago
    Jerry Nixon is one person, correct? Or is Jerry Nixon multiple people and also the official spokesperson for Windows? What other conferences did he speak at making that statement? What other official correspondence did Microsoft make stating it was the last version of Windows? What part of my comment falls under the "no"? It was one guy (a Microsoft employee) stating one time at one conference speaking to a completely unrelated topic (Live Tiles). You think Jerry Nixon, a developer evangelist, was the kind of person authorized to make such a statement of "Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows" while giving a presentation on Live Tiles? If a developer evangelist was giving a talk about bringing Clippy back to Word and how you can add your own prompts and they made the statement of "we're discontinuing Xbox", would you take that as an official statement of Microsoft's intentions?
    - NullPrefix 2y ago
      >a Microsoft employee So it was a Microsoft employee speaking in a conference being quoted by the press?
      - vel0city 2y ago
        Yes. In a single comment that wasn't followed up with more explanation going on a tangent about how the Live Tile APIs will probably be around for a long time so go ahead and develop on them. He wasn't the kind of employee to speak as to such massive trends and make official statements of the future development of Windows overall. Everyone taking this as some statement of absolute fact just ran with that without even wondering what that meant or if the one employee might have been misinformed. There's 300,000 employees at Microsoft. You think they're all on the same page of everything all the time? This employee wasn't there to speak about the future of Windows, just to showcase how to use the new functionality of Live Tiles. It wasn't some big meeting about the future of Windows by any measure.
        NullPrefix 2y ago
        There's a reason why often we hear a disclaimer "views are my own, not employer's". A statement by an official employee has been made, it was widely publicized and never corrected. The onus to correct a false statement by an employee is on the company. With the amount of publicity, Microsoft definitely knew about this false advertisement, but did not want to correct it, because it was in Microsoft's interest for public to believe it was the official truth.
        NullPrefix 2y ago
        On top of that, the employee was an evangelist
jborean93 2y ago
It was an offhand comment from some dev that was seen as some as a promise. MS certainly tried to do a rolling update model but shifted a few times in the frequency to finally releasing Windows 11.

Windows 12: Farewell Tour

> I kinda recall a big marketing campaign saying just that You recall a bunch of publications saying that, but not an official statement from Microsoft. It was all conjecture based on one comment one person made during one breakout session at one developer conference.

cjk2 2y ago
Yeah and no. It was Jerry Nixon, speaking at a Microsoft conference on behalf of MSFT as a Microsoft employee, not on person opinion. He said that Windows 10 was the last numbered version of windows directly. Gartner did some faff around it and editoralised that into it being the last version of windows. Subtle difference.
- vel0city 2y ago
  Jerry Nixon is one person, correct? Or is Jerry Nixon multiple people and also the official spokesperson for Windows? What other conferences did he speak at making that statement? What other official correspondence did Microsoft make stating it was the last version of Windows? What part of my comment falls under the "no"? It was one guy (a Microsoft employee) stating one time at one conference speaking to a completely unrelated topic (Live Tiles). You think Jerry Nixon, a developer evangelist, was the kind of person authorized to make such a statement of "Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows" while giving a presentation on Live Tiles? If a developer evangelist was giving a talk about bringing Clippy back to Word and how you can add your own prompts and they made the statement of "we're discontinuing Xbox", would you take that as an official statement of Microsoft's intentions?
  - NullPrefix 2y ago
    >a Microsoft employee So it was a Microsoft employee speaking in a conference being quoted by the press?
    - vel0city 2y ago
      Yes. In a single comment that wasn't followed up with more explanation going on a tangent about how the Live Tile APIs will probably be around for a long time so go ahead and develop on them. He wasn't the kind of employee to speak as to such massive trends and make official statements of the future development of Windows overall. Everyone taking this as some statement of absolute fact just ran with that without even wondering what that meant or if the one employee might have been misinformed. There's 300,000 employees at Microsoft. You think they're all on the same page of everything all the time? This employee wasn't there to speak about the future of Windows, just to showcase how to use the new functionality of Live Tiles. It wasn't some big meeting about the future of Windows by any measure.
      - NullPrefix 2y ago
        There's a reason why often we hear a disclaimer "views are my own, not employer's". A statement by an official employee has been made, it was widely publicized and never corrected. The onus to correct a false statement by an employee is on the company. With the amount of publicity, Microsoft definitely knew about this false advertisement, but did not want to correct it, because it was in Microsoft's interest for public to believe it was the official truth.
        NullPrefix 2y ago
        On top of that, the employee was an evangelist

jborean93 2y ago

It was an offhand comment from some dev that was seen as some as a promise. MS certainly tried to do a rolling update model but shifted a few times in the frequency to finally releasing Windows 11.