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That’s certainly a fitting description of what I do as something of a sysadmin/devops amalgam, albeit a fairly experienced one, making a living with freelance c

That’s certainly a fitting description of what I do as something of a sysadmin/devops amalgam, albeit a fairly experienced one, making a living with freelance consulting and SMB IT support. My perspective for what programmers are centered on the very conceptualization process you describe, where I would do something very similar to your scenario, I imagined “programmers” operating on a much lower level, less operational in nature, and tackling much more novel problems that involve something more creative than taping together APIs and tooling. I also see LLMs as being mostly productive in that latter category, where the solutions exist and it can pull from existing approaches. For your broader point, I would be more inclined to agree if you had given it a more abstract task of solving some non-IT-related problem by developing an application from scratch. But maybe my perception of a “programmer” is naive?

johnwheeler 2y ago
Thank you for reading! So I'm a generalist, and I do have a lot of experience doing cloud work, which is why I'm able to reverse-engineer what I would have had to do without GPT. I mostly do web programming. Right now, the thing GPT helped me build is my startup https://www.demo.fun https://www.demo.fun It didn't and currently couldn't build the whole thing, but it definitely helped as far as carrying out the same knowledge tasked I outlined in the OP GPT cannot automate a programmer -- my point -- that either I am saying incorrectly or people don't want to hear -- is that the hard and valuable work of information search and integration is now automated by ChatGPT. That chunk of work is something I needed for my startup. If I would have tried to do it, it would've been shittier. Also, an employer would've paid me about $15,000 to do it probably. What I'm trying to tell people is to invert that relationship and realize how valuable those chunks are. But thank you for validating my DevOps conundrum.

johnwheeler 2y ago

Thank you for reading! So I'm a generalist, and I do have a lot of experience doing cloud work, which is why I'm able to reverse-engineer what I would have had to do without GPT. I mostly do web programming. Right now, the thing GPT helped me build is my startup https://www.demo.fun https://www.demo.fun It didn't and currently couldn't build the whole thing, but it definitely helped as far as carrying out the same knowledge tasked I outlined in the OP GPT cannot automate a programmer -- my point -- that either I am saying incorrectly or people don't want to hear -- is that the hard and valuable work of information search and integration is now automated by ChatGPT. That chunk of work is something I needed for my startup. If I would have tried to do it, it would've been shittier. Also, an employer would've paid me about $15,000 to do it probably. What I'm trying to tell people is to invert that relationship and realize how valuable those chunks are. But thank you for validating my DevOps conundrum.