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Seriously considering switching back to Firefox after all these years.

jasonsb 2y ago
What's stopping you? I use both browsers and I see no reason why someone would pick Chrome over Firefox at this point in time.
- 4gotunameagain 2y ago
  While the reasons someone would pick Firefox: - Privacy - Tree style tabs
  - SushiHippie 2y ago
    - uBo works better in firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
    - manquer 2y ago
      Not just better, it will only work in Firefox soon . Ad blockers will stop working on Chrome based browsers with Manifest V2 being dropped starting next week. All Chromimum based browsers are in the same boat, Ad blocking will be severely degraded after Manifest V3 becomes the only option.
- blitzar 2y ago
  (Some) sites don't work on Firefox. Sure it isn't frequent, but it is frequent enough that once a day or so I have to open chrome to do something.
  - ilikehurdles 2y ago
    Once a day? That’s huge. What sites? (I use Firefox daily for about the last year and haven’t had this kind of issue)
  - elaus 2y ago
    Seriously curious what sites those are, especially if it's not the same page every day. It literally never occurs to me (using Firefox again since 3-4 years) but I mostly browse dev-related websites.
    - redblacktree 2y ago
      One example I often run into: Plaid (the bank-linking company) doesn't work. Just hangs. Though I'll admit it's possible they fixed it. I've been trained to use Chrome when I have to interact with it.
    - nonameiguess 2y ago
      I have the same problem. I certainly don't use Chrome daily, but do have to keep it around, typically for shopping checkout and a fair number of US government websites don't work on any browser but Chrome.
    - dmitrygr 2y ago
      jlcpcb's site is often broken in firefox, sadly. i keep chrome around just for it.
      - brokenmachine 2y ago
        Worked for me when I've used it in Firefox. What isn't working?
        dmitrygr 2y ago
        Try ordering a PCB or seeing the list of house parts for PCBA
        brokenmachine 2y ago
        Not sure where the list of parts is, but I've ordered PCBs using Firefox.
  - sangeeth96 2y ago
    ICYDK, do consider reporting on https://webcompat.com https://webcompat.com if you see them.
  - celdon25 2y ago
    Have people never heard of Brave?
- thisisit 2y ago
  for now the seamless extension switching using Extensity. I am yet to find an extension on Firefox which can deliver this functionality.
- metadigm 2y ago
  No shortcut configuration.
Ringz 2y ago
I've been using Firefox since the days when it had the other name. Meanwhile, I use Floorp [1], which is based on Firefox, but offers much more possibilities for customization. I am very satisfied, except for the stupid name... [1]: https://floorp.app/en/ https://floorp.app/en/
- MrAlex94 2y ago
  Not to be a stickler, but just a note it no longer counts as FOSS or even open source I believe, with their new licence: https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp-private-components/blob/50a52d9754a04c3b38522e7e9e0bc3dc60a0984a/README.md https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp-private-components... It’s left a bad taste in my mouth since they used the work of others to get to where they are, then when others do the same, they don’t like it.
mind-blight 2y ago
I've been using Firefox since Chrome forced users to sign in to the browser with their Google account, and I'm quite happy. The only time it's a problem is when a site detects Firefox and won't display unlocked your using chrome or IE. I've only seen that a couple of times in the years since I switched back
- kernal 2y ago
  How did Chrome force you to log in? I've been using it signed out for the longest time.
  - mind-blight 2y ago
    Back in 2018, Chrome released an update that automatically logged users into the browser if they'd logged into a google. It was done silently and automatically, and it was a pain to log out of. They faced a ton of backlash (https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-faces-privacy-backlash-over-chromes-forced-login-policy https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-faces-privacy-backlash-ove...) and rolled the feature back, but that was the tipping point for me. I've been a happy Firefox user since
- Frank2312 2y ago
  Even in that case,there are Firefox extensions to change your user agent. Suddenly the app requesting Chrome/Edge works perfectly, even though we are running in Firefox.
rpgbr 2y ago
Go for Firefox and keep ungoogled-chromium[0] for those sites that refuses to work properly on non-Chromium browsers. [0] https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium
GuB-42 2y ago
I have used both for many years, and now, I see little difference in practice. I am leaning more towards Firefox these days. Main change is that I now use Firefox as my main mobile browser for ad blocking reasons. A few websites don't work on Firefox, I use Chrome for these few. I don't consider it a problem to use two browsers at the same time, I usually don't to the same thing with them, so having separate profiles can be an advantage. Note that privacy is not the reason why I am using Firefox. It is just that I think that knowing both is a good thing, and they are both good browsers, so why not? In some case, Firefox is better, in others Chrome is better, most of the times, they are interchangeable.
WhyNotHugo 2y ago
Firefox is better than Chrome [in the privacy aspect]... but still pretty terrible. It sends a lot of "analytics" and "tracking" to some of Mozilla's servers, but if you inspect the requests, those servers are actually behind Google's CDN,and Google does the TLS termination. So... Google has access too all the data that Mozilla sends when it phones home. Some of it even has a unique identifying id.
garbagewoman 2y ago
… just considering?!? What is it gonna take

What's stopping you? I use both browsers and I see no reason why someone would pick Chrome over Firefox at this point in time.

4gotunameagain 2y ago
While the reasons someone would pick Firefox: - Privacy - Tree style tabs
- SushiHippie 2y ago
  - uBo works better in firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
  - manquer 2y ago
    Not just better, it will only work in Firefox soon . Ad blockers will stop working on Chrome based browsers with Manifest V2 being dropped starting next week. All Chromimum based browsers are in the same boat, Ad blocking will be severely degraded after Manifest V3 becomes the only option.
blitzar 2y ago
(Some) sites don't work on Firefox. Sure it isn't frequent, but it is frequent enough that once a day or so I have to open chrome to do something.
- ilikehurdles 2y ago
  Once a day? That’s huge. What sites? (I use Firefox daily for about the last year and haven’t had this kind of issue)
- elaus 2y ago
  Seriously curious what sites those are, especially if it's not the same page every day. It literally never occurs to me (using Firefox again since 3-4 years) but I mostly browse dev-related websites.
  - redblacktree 2y ago
    One example I often run into: Plaid (the bank-linking company) doesn't work. Just hangs. Though I'll admit it's possible they fixed it. I've been trained to use Chrome when I have to interact with it.
  - nonameiguess 2y ago
    I have the same problem. I certainly don't use Chrome daily, but do have to keep it around, typically for shopping checkout and a fair number of US government websites don't work on any browser but Chrome.
  - dmitrygr 2y ago
    jlcpcb's site is often broken in firefox, sadly. i keep chrome around just for it.
    - brokenmachine 2y ago
      Worked for me when I've used it in Firefox. What isn't working?
      - dmitrygr 2y ago
        Try ordering a PCB or seeing the list of house parts for PCBA
        brokenmachine 2y ago
        Not sure where the list of parts is, but I've ordered PCBs using Firefox.
- sangeeth96 2y ago
  ICYDK, do consider reporting on https://webcompat.com https://webcompat.com if you see them.
- celdon25 2y ago
  Have people never heard of Brave?
thisisit 2y ago
for now the seamless extension switching using Extensity. I am yet to find an extension on Firefox which can deliver this functionality.
metadigm 2y ago
No shortcut configuration.

Ringz 2y ago

I've been using Firefox since the days when it had the other name. Meanwhile, I use Floorp [1], which is based on Firefox, but offers much more possibilities for customization. I am very satisfied, except for the stupid name... [1]: https://floorp.app/en/ https://floorp.app/en/

MrAlex94 2y ago
Not to be a stickler, but just a note it no longer counts as FOSS or even open source I believe, with their new licence: https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp-private-components/blob/50a52d9754a04c3b38522e7e9e0bc3dc60a0984a/README.md https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp-private-components... It’s left a bad taste in my mouth since they used the work of others to get to where they are, then when others do the same, they don’t like it.

mind-blight 2y ago

I've been using Firefox since Chrome forced users to sign in to the browser with their Google account, and I'm quite happy. The only time it's a problem is when a site detects Firefox and won't display unlocked your using chrome or IE. I've only seen that a couple of times in the years since I switched back

kernal 2y ago
How did Chrome force you to log in? I've been using it signed out for the longest time.
- mind-blight 2y ago
  Back in 2018, Chrome released an update that automatically logged users into the browser if they'd logged into a google. It was done silently and automatically, and it was a pain to log out of. They faced a ton of backlash (https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-faces-privacy-backlash-over-chromes-forced-login-policy https://www.pcmag.com/news/google-faces-privacy-backlash-ove...) and rolled the feature back, but that was the tipping point for me. I've been a happy Firefox user since
Frank2312 2y ago
Even in that case,there are Firefox extensions to change your user agent. Suddenly the app requesting Chrome/Edge works perfectly, even though we are running in Firefox.

rpgbr 2y ago

Go for Firefox and keep ungoogled-chromium[0] for those sites that refuses to work properly on non-Chromium browsers. [0] https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

GuB-42 2y ago

I have used both for many years, and now, I see little difference in practice. I am leaning more towards Firefox these days. Main change is that I now use Firefox as my main mobile browser for ad blocking reasons. A few websites don't work on Firefox, I use Chrome for these few. I don't consider it a problem to use two browsers at the same time, I usually don't to the same thing with them, so having separate profiles can be an advantage. Note that privacy is not the reason why I am using Firefox. It is just that I think that knowing both is a good thing, and they are both good browsers, so why not? In some case, Firefox is better, in others Chrome is better, most of the times, they are interchangeable.

WhyNotHugo 2y ago

Firefox is better than Chrome [in the privacy aspect]... but still pretty terrible. It sends a lot of "analytics" and "tracking" to some of Mozilla's servers, but if you inspect the requests, those servers are actually behind Google's CDN,and Google does the TLS termination. So... Google has access too all the data that Mozilla sends when it phones home. Some of it even has a unique identifying id.

garbagewoman 2y ago

… just considering?!? What is it gonna take