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The last time I had a colonoscopy, I asked the attendant if it would be OK for my wife to video record my post-surgical conversation with her so that I could la

The last time I had a colonoscopy, I asked the attendant if it would be OK for my wife to video record my post-surgical conversation with her so that I could later have the odd experience of seeing myself having a recent conversation I had no memory of. I explained I don't have any social media account, we'd record only me, and it was just for my own personal use. They didn't hesitate to say no.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
> They didn't hesitate to say no. Did they give a reason?
- deadbabe 2y ago
  HIPPA
- tasty_freeze 2y ago
  No, but I didn't ask. I assumed that it was that there was no upside to them, which only leaves unspecified downsides, even if unlikely.
nextaccountic 2y ago
This completely sucks. Was it about liability?
- EvanAnderson 2y ago
  Not the OP, but with my wife's ultrasounds during her pregnancy 11 years ago multiple technicians cited liability as the reason I was not permitted to record.
  - AshamedCaptain 2y ago
    Liability of whom exactly? I'm really curious.
    - deadbabe 2y ago
      They can get shut down for not following HIPPA regulations.
      - nextaccountic 2y ago
        But if the patient films himself, this is not by itself a HIPAA violation
    - elteto 2y ago
      My cynical take is that if they mess something up they don’t want to end up with video evidence of it.
    - EvanAnderson 2y ago
      I was and am, too. I've always assumed, very cynically, bans on recording medical practitioners come from attorneys' and insurers' concern about hard evidence of malpractice ending up "on the record".
sillysaurusx 2y ago
Ignore them and record anyway. They won’t (and can’t) throw either of you out. I did this while my daughter was in my wife’s womb. They tried to say that we couldn’t make any recordings of the ultrasounds. I made recordings of the ultrasounds. They asked me to stop, and I didn’t stop, and that was the end of it. Admittedly you have to be willing to break social norms for this to even be an option, which is immensely difficult for most polite people. My solution was to remind myself I wasn’t being rude, and that I was a paying customer. (Unlike most people who say "I’m a paying customer," I always treat everybody well and respectfully; it still boggles my mind how awful most people are to e.g. support reps who are only doing their job. But this isn’t that situation, and it’s useful to remember that sometimes it’s true that you’re a paying customer and deserve to get your money’s worth when the only obvious downside is "they’ll be slightly annoyed for a few minutes.")
- jader201 2y ago
  > My solution was to remind myself I wasn’t being rude, and that I was a paying customer. Maybe I have a different definition of “rude”, but I feel that openly ignoring someone’s request is at the very least disrespectful, if not rude. I’m not saying you’re wrong for continuing to record, but to your point of: > you have to be willing to break social norms I think this also means you have to be willing to be rude. But it sounds like you’re arguing that being “correct” by definition makes it “not rude”. But I’d argue whether you’re rude has little to do with whether you’re right, and more to do with how others think of your actions, especially when you’re knowingly doing something that might offend others (i.e. ignoring someone’s request). I think a less “rude” approach might be to, for example, do an audio recording of the post-anesthesia conversation without the nurse’s knowledge. Again, this is my take, but maybe I’m the one that’s off here.
  - arde 2y ago
    It's not a matter of disrespect as much as of disobeyance. If there isn't (or shouldn't be) any subordination, disobeyance may not imply disrespect. The problem arises when people differ about whether there's subordination.
martin293 2y ago
I'm also interested in why they said no.

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago

> They didn't hesitate to say no. Did they give a reason?

deadbabe 2y ago
HIPPA
tasty_freeze 2y ago
No, but I didn't ask. I assumed that it was that there was no upside to them, which only leaves unspecified downsides, even if unlikely.

nextaccountic 2y ago

This completely sucks. Was it about liability?

EvanAnderson 2y ago
Not the OP, but with my wife's ultrasounds during her pregnancy 11 years ago multiple technicians cited liability as the reason I was not permitted to record.
- AshamedCaptain 2y ago
  Liability of whom exactly? I'm really curious.
  - deadbabe 2y ago
    They can get shut down for not following HIPPA regulations.
    - nextaccountic 2y ago
      But if the patient films himself, this is not by itself a HIPAA violation
  - elteto 2y ago
    My cynical take is that if they mess something up they don’t want to end up with video evidence of it.
  - EvanAnderson 2y ago
    I was and am, too. I've always assumed, very cynically, bans on recording medical practitioners come from attorneys' and insurers' concern about hard evidence of malpractice ending up "on the record".

sillysaurusx 2y ago

Ignore them and record anyway. They won’t (and can’t) throw either of you out. I did this while my daughter was in my wife’s womb. They tried to say that we couldn’t make any recordings of the ultrasounds. I made recordings of the ultrasounds. They asked me to stop, and I didn’t stop, and that was the end of it. Admittedly you have to be willing to break social norms for this to even be an option, which is immensely difficult for most polite people. My solution was to remind myself I wasn’t being rude, and that I was a paying customer. (Unlike most people who say "I’m a paying customer," I always treat everybody well and respectfully; it still boggles my mind how awful most people are to e.g. support reps who are only doing their job. But this isn’t that situation, and it’s useful to remember that sometimes it’s true that you’re a paying customer and deserve to get your money’s worth when the only obvious downside is "they’ll be slightly annoyed for a few minutes.")

jader201 2y ago
> My solution was to remind myself I wasn’t being rude, and that I was a paying customer. Maybe I have a different definition of “rude”, but I feel that openly ignoring someone’s request is at the very least disrespectful, if not rude. I’m not saying you’re wrong for continuing to record, but to your point of: > you have to be willing to break social norms I think this also means you have to be willing to be rude. But it sounds like you’re arguing that being “correct” by definition makes it “not rude”. But I’d argue whether you’re rude has little to do with whether you’re right, and more to do with how others think of your actions, especially when you’re knowingly doing something that might offend others (i.e. ignoring someone’s request). I think a less “rude” approach might be to, for example, do an audio recording of the post-anesthesia conversation without the nurse’s knowledge. Again, this is my take, but maybe I’m the one that’s off here.
- arde 2y ago
  It's not a matter of disrespect as much as of disobeyance. If there isn't (or shouldn't be) any subordination, disobeyance may not imply disrespect. The problem arises when people differ about whether there's subordination.

martin293 2y ago

I'm also interested in why they said no.