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Ice maximum shows no trend in 50 years, Antarctica is doing OK all things considered... https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/understandin

Ice maximum shows no trend in 50 years, Antarctica is doing OK all things considered... https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/understanding-climate-antarctic-sea-ice-extent https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

AndrewKemendo 2y ago
There’s literally nothing that will prove anthropogenic climate change as a catastrophic event to people who want to find evidence that everything is perfectly fine so continue to do that and live in a fantasy world By the way, it’s the oscillation extreme frequency that you should be more worried about in that graph instead of The totality numbers — so maybe go back to actually understanding the mechanism.
- alexk307 2y ago
  I'd flip that to you as well - there's literally nothing that doomers can hear that will change their mind that maybe we're not heading for a catastrophe. Of course, it's a real problem, but there are real solutions that are being worked on and rolled out. - There's more ice in Antarctica now than there was 40 years ago [1] - Antarctic ice has increased by 1% per decade since the satellite era (1979) [2] - New record earliest winter in Antarctica was last year [3] - Coldest 6 months in Antarctica ever recorded was 3 years ago [4] - If you expand your reference window before 1979, Antarctic ice has been through far wilder swings [5] But maybe I'm living in a fantasy world where hard data and scientific observations don't matter - please do explain the mechanism that I'm missing. [1] https://eos.org/science-updates/new-perspectives-on-the-enigma-of-expanding-antarctic-sea-ice https://eos.org/science-updates/new-perspectives-on-the-enig... [2] https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/sea-ice-antarctic https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/sea-ice-an... [3] https://www.weatherandradar.co.uk/weather-news/winter-is-just-starting-early-record-cold-arrives-in-antarctica--b022df00-9cc5-466e-a479-b68355b79456 https://www.weatherandradar.co.uk/weather-news/winter-is-jus... [4] https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/09/weather/weather-record-cold-antarctica-climate-change/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/09/weather/weather-record-cold-a... [5] https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2018JD029601 https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/201...

AndrewKemendo 2y ago

There’s literally nothing that will prove anthropogenic climate change as a catastrophic event to people who want to find evidence that everything is perfectly fine so continue to do that and live in a fantasy world By the way, it’s the oscillation extreme frequency that you should be more worried about in that graph instead of The totality numbers — so maybe go back to actually understanding the mechanism.

alexk307 2y ago
I'd flip that to you as well - there's literally nothing that doomers can hear that will change their mind that maybe we're not heading for a catastrophe. Of course, it's a real problem, but there are real solutions that are being worked on and rolled out. - There's more ice in Antarctica now than there was 40 years ago [1] - Antarctic ice has increased by 1% per decade since the satellite era (1979) [2] - New record earliest winter in Antarctica was last year [3] - Coldest 6 months in Antarctica ever recorded was 3 years ago [4] - If you expand your reference window before 1979, Antarctic ice has been through far wilder swings [5] But maybe I'm living in a fantasy world where hard data and scientific observations don't matter - please do explain the mechanism that I'm missing. [1] https://eos.org/science-updates/new-perspectives-on-the-enigma-of-expanding-antarctic-sea-ice https://eos.org/science-updates/new-perspectives-on-the-enig... [2] https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/sea-ice-antarctic https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/sea-ice-an... [3] https://www.weatherandradar.co.uk/weather-news/winter-is-just-starting-early-record-cold-arrives-in-antarctica--b022df00-9cc5-466e-a479-b68355b79456 https://www.weatherandradar.co.uk/weather-news/winter-is-jus... [4] https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/09/weather/weather-record-cold-antarctica-climate-change/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/09/weather/weather-record-cold-a... [5] https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2018JD029601 https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/201...