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>But it is; there’s no way to know whether how I see green is how green looks to you. The consciousness conversation comes up pretty often here. I kinda disagr
by zero-sharp 2y ago
>But it is; there’s no way to know whether how I see green is how green looks to you.
The consciousness conversation comes up pretty often here. I kinda disagree with the idea that there's no way to communicate experience directly. Yea, at present there is no way to know that we have the same experience of green. But imagine in the future we were able to analyze/probe the computation of the brain and had more advanced biological engineering. Would we still not be able to determine experimentally what constitutes the sensation of green (and, as a result, be able to manipulate it)? Why not? It seems more like a practical/current problem rather than a theoretical one.
- bee_rider 2y agoI think it is a claim, not an argument, really (one I do happen to agree with); essentially that if we had good enough neuroscience we could find the sensation of green in the cells, signals, or whatever. There’s something in those cells and signals that is having the first-person perspective of being me, which is experiencing the sensation of green. I believe that the matter is all there is, so it must be in there somewhere. But for example if it is in the carbon, I wonder why we haven’t found it when we look very hard at pencil lead? I mean, that’s getting way ahead of ourselves, we don’t really know how to characterize it at all other than by this one very odd thing that it seems to do.