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I'm definitely not an expert but I think BYDs are popular in China and EU because of governmental policies (in China) and geographical reasons (both China and E

I'm definitely not an expert but I think BYDs are popular in China and EU because of governmental policies (in China) and geographical reasons (both China and EU are more urban than North America, owning a detached house in China that is closer to good schools, hospitals and infras are unthinkable for most Chinese). I live in Canada and I really can't see myself driving an EV right now. It doesn't guarantee my not-so-rare but crucial requests: - Going to some random places for vacationing without worrying about whether there are enough charging stations; - Going through early spring without adding anxiety about a power outage that sweeps for 2-7 days; The infra is just not ready. And TBH, I don't think it's going to be ready forever. Infra construction is so corrupted and so expensive in NA that I absolutely have zero faith in it. Actually, the push to more EVs in China is already a bit problematic due to lack of Infras. Just imagine you are in the middle of Spring festival traffic jam...it's already bad for gasoline cars but it's a nightmare for EVs.

itsoktocry 2y ago
>I live in Canada and I really can't see myself driving an EV right now. We live in a semi-rural part of Canada, and have a bit of a (pleasant, country) commute. I want the most efficient vehicle. I ran the numbers and an EV just did not make sense. If you're driving mostly highway, the overall cost/km isn't that much better than the best ICEs, and the ICE is much cheaper.
- markus_zhang 2y ago
  Oh I wish I could live in such a place too. Financial-wise, I actually haven't compared the cost/km because of two things: - I'm not sure how expensive a switch of battery going to be (do we have data on that?) - Yeah they are outright more expensive than ICEs, and with the current financing climate, not very attractive
- RavlaAlvar 2y ago
  This what I don’t get about EV If you live in suburban and commuting to downtown for work, large part of the driving would be high way. Having hybrid makes way more sense in this scenario. If you live in downtown, you probably don’t need a car or you are parking in a underground parking lot that does not guarantee you a charging plspot
viraptor 2y ago
I'm not sure the urban part is that relevant as a country-scale statistic. Australia is uninhabitable in lots of areas and 90% of people live in cities. I'm still planning an EV in a small town, because I'm never driving more than a single tank anyway and that one time I want to do a cross-country trip, I'll just rent a car for that time. A more interesting statistic would be something like daily commute https://www.thinkinsure.ca/insurance-help-centre/commuting-times-and-facts-in-canada.html https://www.thinkinsure.ca/insurance-help-centre/commuting-t... which recently was ~30min each way on average - very much in range. On the other hand the power issues could actually improve with enough V2L deployed.

itsoktocry 2y ago

>I live in Canada and I really can't see myself driving an EV right now. We live in a semi-rural part of Canada, and have a bit of a (pleasant, country) commute. I want the most efficient vehicle. I ran the numbers and an EV just did not make sense. If you're driving mostly highway, the overall cost/km isn't that much better than the best ICEs, and the ICE is much cheaper.

markus_zhang 2y ago
Oh I wish I could live in such a place too. Financial-wise, I actually haven't compared the cost/km because of two things: - I'm not sure how expensive a switch of battery going to be (do we have data on that?) - Yeah they are outright more expensive than ICEs, and with the current financing climate, not very attractive
RavlaAlvar 2y ago
This what I don’t get about EV If you live in suburban and commuting to downtown for work, large part of the driving would be high way. Having hybrid makes way more sense in this scenario. If you live in downtown, you probably don’t need a car or you are parking in a underground parking lot that does not guarantee you a charging plspot

viraptor 2y ago

I'm not sure the urban part is that relevant as a country-scale statistic. Australia is uninhabitable in lots of areas and 90% of people live in cities. I'm still planning an EV in a small town, because I'm never driving more than a single tank anyway and that one time I want to do a cross-country trip, I'll just rent a car for that time. A more interesting statistic would be something like daily commute https://www.thinkinsure.ca/insurance-help-centre/commuting-times-and-facts-in-canada.html https://www.thinkinsure.ca/insurance-help-centre/commuting-t... which recently was ~30min each way on average - very much in range. On the other hand the power issues could actually improve with enough V2L deployed.