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I find it a bit strange that the article (and also a lot of the discussion here) does not discuss the size of these houses (in square meters per person), or alt

by vladms 2y ago

I find it a bit strange that the article (and also a lot of the discussion here) does not discuss the size of these houses (in square meters per person), or alternatively the distribution of the sizes/areas. I grew up in a 20 square meter per person apartment (with multiple person living there, for a total size of 60 square meters) - and it was definitely not pleasant. But I feel that nowadays people also expect a lot - for example in The Netherlands the reported average of 65 square meter per person https://longreads.cbs.nl/trends19-eng/economy/figures/construction-and-housing/ https://longreads.cbs.nl/trends19-eng/economy/figures/constr.... Not discussing what it should be ideal, but if (some) people now want 2x or 3x what they wanted 40 years ago for example (without actually needing it due to a larger family), it's no wonder that there are issues (with prices/availability etc.).

feoren 2y ago
The people buying up their 5th investment property are taking up a lot more that 65 square meters. This feels like the usual "you should all just get used to living in poverty so that the few can exploit you more." If everyone got used to 20 square meters, pretty soon the rich would buy the rest and then we'd hear "your standards are too high; you should be happy with 10!"
downrightmike 2y ago
(2019) Baby Boomers Built Big, But Now Nobody is Buying https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/baby-boomers-built-big-now-201515536.html https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/baby-boomers-built-big-now-2... I think part of the problem is there aren't 3rd places nearby in the suburbs, because that is the point, so people want more room to have to accommodate their needs.
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
I grew up in a 20 square meter room, with multiple persons living in that same room, and multiple families living in the other rooms of the apartment ... I built private quarters for myself on top of a wardrobe, where my parents couldn't easily reach.

by vladms 2y ago

feoren 2y ago

The people buying up their 5th investment property are taking up a lot more that 65 square meters. This feels like the usual "you should all just get used to living in poverty so that the few can exploit you more." If everyone got used to 20 square meters, pretty soon the rich would buy the rest and then we'd hear "your standards are too high; you should be happy with 10!"

downrightmike 2y ago

(2019) Baby Boomers Built Big, But Now Nobody is Buying https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/baby-boomers-built-big-now-201515536.html https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/baby-boomers-built-big-now-2... I think part of the problem is there aren't 3rd places nearby in the suburbs, because that is the point, so people want more room to have to accommodate their needs.

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago

I grew up in a 20 square meter room, with multiple persons living in that same room, and multiple families living in the other rooms of the apartment ... I built private quarters for myself on top of a wardrobe, where my parents couldn't easily reach.