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Nixcon NA 2023 accepted, then later rescinded, sponsorship from Anduril, which is a defense company. There was a lot of community pushback on that, and it seems

Nixcon NA 2023 accepted, then later rescinded, sponsorship from Anduril, which is a defense company. There was a lot of community pushback on that, and it seems like the organizers messed up and the venue wouldn't allow it anyway. Either way they were a sponsor for 2024. Ever since there has been a lot of infighting in the community. Here's a recent LWN article and HN discussion about it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40199153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40199153

neonsunset 2y ago
Also relevant reading: https://srid.ca/nixos-mod https://srid.ca/nixos-mod How certain, ideologically and politically driven parts of community conduct themselves against anyone they suspect of wrongthink: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/delroths-muting-in-the-moderation-matrix-room/44090/14 https://discourse.nixos.org/t/delroths-muting-in-the-moderat...
- gradientsrneat 2y ago
  The first website, I skimmed the rabbit hole of links a bit, and it reads like far left/far right infighting. Personally, I don't feel sad with someone getting banned who thinks LGBT people don't have a right to exist. But hyperpartisan groups are more likely to scour people's social media/blogs/etc to find any reason imaginable to ban them.
  - anonfordays 2y ago
    > it reads like far left/far right infighting It's far-left versus anyone right of Mao. There are no far-right people of note here. >Personally, I don't feel sad with someone getting banned who thinks LGBT people don't have a right to exist. So you're OK with banning Muslims? Personally, I don't feel sad with someone getting banned who thinks Israeli people don't have a right to exist. See what I did there? This is fallacious thinking. >But hyperpartisan groups are more likely to scour people's social media/blogs/etc to find any reason imaginable to ban them. Indeed. This is inexcusable behavior. It's seeking out things to feign "outrage" over in order to make political moves such as ousting any members that are not ideologically aligned.
    - em-bee 2y ago
      muslims to not believe that LGBT people don't have a right to exist. those who express such a sentiment have not understood the koran that teaches that all people should be treated with love and compassion.
      - CRConrad 2y ago
        > muslims to not believe that LGBT people don't have a right to exist. "Exist", sure... But they only exist as corpses after they've been stoned to death for the sin of being LGBT. > those who express such a sentiment have not understood the koran that teaches that all people should be treated with love and compassion. reply So mainly Muslims, then?
    - gradientsrneat 2y ago
      > There are no far-right people of note here I would think srid is notable due to his site making an impression here? But I can see where you're coming from. I've observed attempted community takeovers from a safe distance, and it's depressing. Not going to attempt a coherent opinion on Nix, as I am not involved in the project. > See what I did there? No, I really don't. Your counter-example just seems like a false equivalence to me.
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      - anonfordays 2y ago
        >I would think srid is notable Srid is not far-right... >No, I really don't. Your counter-example just seems like a false equivalence to me. It's the same as: "Personally, I don't feel sad with someone getting banned who grooms children." Then one declares a wide array of behaviors, words, actions, inactions, opinions, orthogonal statements, etc. as "child grooming", "anti-LGBTQ", etc. and then use that as prima facie to oust the opposition.
        gradientsrneat 2y ago

neonsunset 2y ago

Also relevant reading: https://srid.ca/nixos-mod https://srid.ca/nixos-mod How certain, ideologically and politically driven parts of community conduct themselves against anyone they suspect of wrongthink: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/delroths-muting-in-the-moderation-matrix-room/44090/14 https://discourse.nixos.org/t/delroths-muting-in-the-moderat...

gradientsrneat 2y ago
The first website, I skimmed the rabbit hole of links a bit, and it reads like far left/far right infighting. Personally, I don't feel sad with someone getting banned who thinks LGBT people don't have a right to exist. But hyperpartisan groups are more likely to scour people's social media/blogs/etc to find any reason imaginable to ban them.
- anonfordays 2y ago
  > it reads like far left/far right infighting It's far-left versus anyone right of Mao. There are no far-right people of note here. >Personally, I don't feel sad with someone getting banned who thinks LGBT people don't have a right to exist. So you're OK with banning Muslims? Personally, I don't feel sad with someone getting banned who thinks Israeli people don't have a right to exist. See what I did there? This is fallacious thinking. >But hyperpartisan groups are more likely to scour people's social media/blogs/etc to find any reason imaginable to ban them. Indeed. This is inexcusable behavior. It's seeking out things to feign "outrage" over in order to make political moves such as ousting any members that are not ideologically aligned.
  - em-bee 2y ago
    muslims to not believe that LGBT people don't have a right to exist. those who express such a sentiment have not understood the koran that teaches that all people should be treated with love and compassion.
    - CRConrad 2y ago
      > muslims to not believe that LGBT people don't have a right to exist. "Exist", sure... But they only exist as corpses after they've been stoned to death for the sin of being LGBT. > those who express such a sentiment have not understood the koran that teaches that all people should be treated with love and compassion. reply So mainly Muslims, then?
  - gradientsrneat 2y ago
    > There are no far-right people of note here I would think srid is notable due to his site making an impression here? But I can see where you're coming from. I've observed attempted community takeovers from a safe distance, and it's depressing. Not going to attempt a coherent opinion on Nix, as I am not involved in the project. > See what I did there? No, I really don't. Your counter-example just seems like a false equivalence to me.
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    - anonfordays 2y ago
      >I would think srid is notable Srid is not far-right... >No, I really don't. Your counter-example just seems like a false equivalence to me. It's the same as: "Personally, I don't feel sad with someone getting banned who grooms children." Then one declares a wide array of behaviors, words, actions, inactions, opinions, orthogonal statements, etc. as "child grooming", "anti-LGBTQ", etc. and then use that as prima facie to oust the opposition.
      - gradientsrneat 2y ago