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The land under UAE doesn’t have dozens or even hundreds of years of plot splitting and ownership claims too, there is just an enormous advantage to how new much

The land under UAE doesn’t have dozens or even hundreds of years of plot splitting and ownership claims too, there is just an enormous advantage to how new much of the county is and a government incentivized to grow. It does help that citizens form a smaller part of the population and that it seems like they get advantageous jobs and housing to keep them happy. Hard to compare to western counties.

nasmorn 2y ago
Also they build with what is almost slave labor.
- kylehotchkiss 2y ago
  Blame the nearby countries providing no jobs, no education, and no future for these laborers instead. Also don’t forget the hundreds of thousands of people from the exact same countries who gain respectable middle class, stable jobs in UAE that their home countries don’t provide. I’m not here to defend every decision that UAE has made but they’ve done a lot of good for people who come from countries with unspeakably shitty governments that deserve a lot more condemnation.
  - nasmorn 2y ago
    In the Roman Empire if you found a child that would otherwise die you could adopt it into your household as a slave since that was certainly better. Your logic is absolutely sound if you dispute the concept of human rights entirely. The problem is you create a permanent underclass in the country since you take literally almost all rights from them. Including by the way the right to return where they came from.
  - mtalantikite 2y ago
    You don't just get to do human rights abuse because someone was born into poverty or conflict. [1][2][3] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_South_Asian_labourers_in_the_Gulf_Cooperation_Council_region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_South_Asian_labou... [2] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50228549 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50228549 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU
  - illegalmemory 2y ago
    What you are saying is that slavery is not bad because they get to eat now.

nasmorn 2y ago

Also they build with what is almost slave labor.

kylehotchkiss 2y ago
Blame the nearby countries providing no jobs, no education, and no future for these laborers instead. Also don’t forget the hundreds of thousands of people from the exact same countries who gain respectable middle class, stable jobs in UAE that their home countries don’t provide. I’m not here to defend every decision that UAE has made but they’ve done a lot of good for people who come from countries with unspeakably shitty governments that deserve a lot more condemnation.
- nasmorn 2y ago
  In the Roman Empire if you found a child that would otherwise die you could adopt it into your household as a slave since that was certainly better. Your logic is absolutely sound if you dispute the concept of human rights entirely. The problem is you create a permanent underclass in the country since you take literally almost all rights from them. Including by the way the right to return where they came from.
- mtalantikite 2y ago
  You don't just get to do human rights abuse because someone was born into poverty or conflict. [1][2][3] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_South_Asian_labourers_in_the_Gulf_Cooperation_Council_region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatment_of_South_Asian_labou... [2] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50228549 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50228549 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU
- illegalmemory 2y ago
  What you are saying is that slavery is not bad because they get to eat now.