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Google's AI is that stupid, feeds people answers from The Onion
- jjgreen 2y ago‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Search-Engine Where This Regularly Happens
- theturtletalks 2y agoIs it even in their best interest to make it work? I’m sure the normal person would start to ignore the AI answer and scroll down to see the first page of ads and then find the results.
- CleanRoomClub 2y agoI think you’re wrong. The normal person would almost certainly take the quick summary answer so long as it doesn’t sound too absurd. Most people use google to answer a question. If that question is answered immediately at the top of the page, mission accomplished
- latentsea 2y agoHmm looks like I need to run to the store and get some glue for tonight's dinner.
- ben_jones 2y agoIs there a way to turn it off other than an obscure query parameter in the URL? An honest release of this feature would have a “turn it off” button right next to it and I’m not seeing one.
- more_corn 2y agoWe’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!
- fooblaster 2y agoconveniently the same problems are present in gpt4, but conveniently ignored as that product is from a revolutionary startup
- prepend 2y agoGpt4 doesn’t show me these summaries and answers even though I never asked and just searched. This is just another example of google sucking and being kind of stupid now.
- Spivak 2y agoAsk an AI to answer a question based on the provided search context when the top result is The Onion and you get… information from The Onion. This really is "you can't win when you're a big platform and have a billion QA testers looking for something to spark Twitter outrage." You can generate your own rage bait on your own pretty easily if you craft a search where a satirical article is the first result.
- sandspar 2y agoWhy is 2024 Google so widely despised that there's such an appetite for seeing it humiliated?
- pjmlp 2y agoBecause we remember how Google was when Yahoo, Altavista, Ask Jeeves! ruled.
- nrb 2y agoBecause now there is a galaxy-sized gulf between what users want and what Google wants. Google's stated mission was “to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful” but their actions over the last few years have served only to make search _less_ accessible and useful.
- beryilma 2y ago"Don't be evil" was it? We came a long way from that...
- aprilthird2021 2y agoGenerative AIs are great at generating new, unique groups of words and images, etc. that are pleasing to humans (this is what they are trained to do after all). They're not oracles or databases or encyclopedias. But they're marketed to us as the latter, so people naturally get upset when they have flaws all those other sources of info don't.
- Rodeoclash 2y agoAgreed. I would extend this and say that we are so enamored by the "humanness" that they exhibit that we're collectively losing our minds over them. I think this stems from the part of our brain that lights up when an animal (or in this case a machine) exhibits humanlike behaviour. Crows counting out loud, parrots that understand the concept of 0 and chimpanzees that are using stone age tools all give us the same reaction. LLMs have dialled this response up to 11.
- wildrhythms 2y agoMy guess is some higherup got the idea into their head that these LLMs are some kind of knowledge engine without understanding the tech, and no qualified person dared to correct them.
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- croes 2y agoBS in, BS out.
- squarefoot 2y agoIt seems the AI confuses literal and semantic searches, that is, if I search for "what is America's finest news source?" it should be clear that I'm not looking for a page containing that phrase but rather one that satisfies its meaning not necessarily respecting the phrase word for word. However, Google is a advertising machine, so I wouldn't be that surprised if a search for "what is the best pizza in the world" didn't return results based on user reviews and opinions but rather a pointer to someone that advertise themselves as the best pizza in the world.
- pimlottc 2y agoIt's more than just the literal text on theonion.com; that tagline has been widely quoted on many reputable sites when describing The Onion [0]. So I'm sure to Google that seems like a really strong signal that there's a strong consensus that they really are the finest news source out there. 0: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22America%27s+finest+news+source%22+-site%3Atheonion.com https://www.google.com/search?q=%22America%27s+finest+news+s...
- viraptor 2y ago> it should be clear that I'm not looking for a page containing that phrase but rather one that satisfies its meaning Why? If you hear "America's finest news source" a few times and go to google to check what people mean, you really want it to tell you about the onion. Or at least a Wikipedia-style disambiguation page.
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- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoIsn’t this criticism a bit early? This is all fixable, or at least it can be improved upon.
- yifanl 2y agoAnything can be anything else tomorrow, which is why we must criticize what's in front of us today.
- rchaud 2y agoApple Maps' 2011 launch fiasco probably handed Google Maps a 10-year lead, even if they fixed the bugs. First impressions are important. Nobody remembers that Windows Vista after Service Pack 2 was more or less indistinguishable from Windows 7.
- mbfg 2y agoI'd say this might be the best evidence so far that google's AI has passed the Turing test, and is indistinguishable from humans.
- realfeel78 2y agoNo one's looking for AI that's only as smart as the dumbest humans.
- ChrisArchitect 2y ago[dupe] More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40461580 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40461580 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40448074 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40448074
- chucke1992 2y agoI still don't think these search results are what users want to use at all (even if they are correct). Google Search trained users to search for far too long. Now it returns some crap even in the search, but that's a separate matter. I think the future is search being integrated into everything. You are watching a tiktok video - "what is that song?", "what is that flower?", "where to buy the same bag?".
- vrinsd 2y agoThose who don't study history are bound to repeat it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot)
- smusamashah 2y agoDoesn't it feel like Google is being insecure and desperate? But they are so big, I don't see a reason they should feel insecure by any new tech to rush out something. Their tech is clearly inferior at the moment. Why force it down people's throats like Microsoft. It doesn't make sense.
- brokenmachine 2y agoTo make people less interested in AI. They are the leaders in non-AI search.
- disqard 2y agoShhhh, Satya is making Google dance... watch and enjoy. It's the "put Social into everything" FOMO -- and it's going just as well.
- kgbcia 2y agoIt's not stupid, just you get what you pay for in LLM. I think LLM need some kind of reinforcement learning stage to instruct them what's true and false. obviously Google rushed this thing out of the gate to prevent ChatGpt from taking over their search space. I find myself using ChatGpt more often, since it's advertisement free at the moment.
- lupire 2y agoGoogle's Instant Answer or Info Box or whatever it is called has been making similar mistakes since before LLM AI. It's not shocking that the new summarizer is just as bad as the old extractor, when both are presenting data from the same source.
- Havoc 2y agoThey must be doing something really funky RAG like in an attempt to make this scale to google search level. Cause even the worse classic LLM hallucinations are this misguided
- dzhiurgis 2y agoOnly Grok would be so sarcastic to recommend onion instead of bee