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> Most modal editors are terminal apps, I'd like to change that and implement a good modal GUI editor. That’s lovely, I’m doing the same. I’m using glfw and C+

> Most modal editors are terminal apps, I'd like to change that and implement a good modal GUI editor. That’s lovely, I’m doing the same. I’m using glfw and C++14 to build a vim-ish IDE. I never learned to love vim/nvim plugins, and make only basic use of macros and substitutions so that’s pretty much the feature-set. It’s very fun to build your own UI library.

turboponyy 2y ago
The best graphical, modal text editor is Emacs.
- beyondCritics 2y ago
  Emacs is far from being modal though ...
  - karthink 2y ago
    Emacs' keymap system is fully modal by design. This state machine is why it's possible to fully implement evil-mode (and many other modal editing UIs, like boon, lispy etc) quite easily on top.
    - createaccount99 2y ago
      Taking "quite easily" on a walk there
  - turboponyy 2y ago
    Emacs is whatever you want it to be, and it has wonderful modal editing packages such as evil-mode[1] - which surpasses the editing system from vi that it is based on - and Meow[2] 1. https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil 2. https://github.com/meow-edit/meow https://github.com/meow-edit/meow
    - jhchabran 2y ago
      Having used evil-mode as my main driver for years, I can confirm that it truly works as expected. Requires some setup though. I used https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs to do the heavy lifting though.
- imiric 2y ago
  *with evil-mode. There's plenty of things that Emacs does right, but evil-mode is far from ideal. Many plugins don't support it OOB and need special workarounds. Many others expect native Emacs keybindings and you need to manually add ones for evil-mode specifically. Nowadays I don't experience many issues with it, but this is mostly because my setup is largely static, and it took me several years of tweaking the configuration to get it in a state that's usable and intuitive for me. It's unreasonable to expect everyone else to have the same patience, so an editor with a _native_ modal UI can certainly improve the user experience.
- wudangmonk 2y ago
  it also has many terminals to choose from and dirvish which sits on top of dired is the best file editor I've used.

turboponyy 2y ago

The best graphical, modal text editor is Emacs.

beyondCritics 2y ago
Emacs is far from being modal though ...
- karthink 2y ago
  Emacs' keymap system is fully modal by design. This state machine is why it's possible to fully implement evil-mode (and many other modal editing UIs, like boon, lispy etc) quite easily on top.
  - createaccount99 2y ago
    Taking "quite easily" on a walk there
- turboponyy 2y ago
  Emacs is whatever you want it to be, and it has wonderful modal editing packages such as evil-mode[1] - which surpasses the editing system from vi that it is based on - and Meow[2] 1. https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil https://github.com/emacs-evil/evil 2. https://github.com/meow-edit/meow https://github.com/meow-edit/meow
  - jhchabran 2y ago
    Having used evil-mode as my main driver for years, I can confirm that it truly works as expected. Requires some setup though. I used https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs to do the heavy lifting though.
imiric 2y ago
*with evil-mode. There's plenty of things that Emacs does right, but evil-mode is far from ideal. Many plugins don't support it OOB and need special workarounds. Many others expect native Emacs keybindings and you need to manually add ones for evil-mode specifically. Nowadays I don't experience many issues with it, but this is mostly because my setup is largely static, and it took me several years of tweaking the configuration to get it in a state that's usable and intuitive for me. It's unreasonable to expect everyone else to have the same patience, so an editor with a _native_ modal UI can certainly improve the user experience.
wudangmonk 2y ago
it also has many terminals to choose from and dirvish which sits on top of dired is the best file editor I've used.