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Who's their biggest enemy at the moment

by tetris11 2y ago

btbuildem 2y ago
Paywalled sites?
- ysofunny 2y ago
  let me go further: the whole of the copyrighted industry including all media conglomerates (obviously) and all scientific, literary, etc, publishing houses. also, there's a global war, so it well may be a fog-of-war technique or like somebody else also mentioned: someone needs something to stay quite for a little bit as part of some larger operation
  - markus_zhang 2y ago
    The establishment always gets the most advanced technology, attack and defense because they have the big bucks. That's why I never believed that technological advancement promotes individualism, distributed X (whatever X is, money, power, whatever). Eventually it always points to a more centralized world because the elites are able to control more with each technological advancement.
  - genidoi 2y ago
    Doubt this is coordinated - more likely a singular (m/b)illionaire wanted a post/photo/video, or multiple of, deleted for good, perhaps for suppression of legal evidence, and this was one way of bringing some firepower to a… library. One of the internets biggest libraries too. Odd.
    - brokenmachine 2y ago
      But a ddos doesn't remove the page...
      - ysofunny 2y ago
        it may prevent its capture in the first place, and it can also prevent consulting the page (a delay tactic)
        brokenmachine 2y ago
        Good points.
some_furry 2y ago
That's a tough question to answer without devolving into politics, which is off topic for Hacker News. I think that's also the wrong question to ask. "Who's doing it?" is less interesting than "What's enabling them to succeed?"
- slater 2y ago
  Politics isn't fully off-topic on HN; per guidelines, most political stuff is off-topic, "unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
kristopolous 2y ago
Anyone who doesn't like the availability and accessibility of history and documents. Lots of people want to rewrite or erase history. Quoting a story I wrote about this a few years ago: "Everything you speak, all ideas, all things, all thoughts, they are all of the past. Society and knowledge is a composite of the shadows of former presents. When people lie or misrepresent knowledge they speak of a past they wish to change. What if people who have the most to gain from deceit had a tool to actually change the past and make these lies the truth?" Here it is if you're curious https://kristopolous.medium.com/stephen-hawking-had-a-time-traveler-birthday-party-where-he-invited-time-travelers-from-the-510f494a4063 https://kristopolous.medium.com/stephen-hawking-had-a-time-t...

Who's their biggest enemy at the moment

btbuildem 2y ago

Paywalled sites?

ysofunny 2y ago
let me go further: the whole of the copyrighted industry including all media conglomerates (obviously) and all scientific, literary, etc, publishing houses. also, there's a global war, so it well may be a fog-of-war technique or like somebody else also mentioned: someone needs something to stay quite for a little bit as part of some larger operation
- markus_zhang 2y ago
  The establishment always gets the most advanced technology, attack and defense because they have the big bucks. That's why I never believed that technological advancement promotes individualism, distributed X (whatever X is, money, power, whatever). Eventually it always points to a more centralized world because the elites are able to control more with each technological advancement.
- genidoi 2y ago
  Doubt this is coordinated - more likely a singular (m/b)illionaire wanted a post/photo/video, or multiple of, deleted for good, perhaps for suppression of legal evidence, and this was one way of bringing some firepower to a… library. One of the internets biggest libraries too. Odd.
  - brokenmachine 2y ago
    But a ddos doesn't remove the page...
    - ysofunny 2y ago
      it may prevent its capture in the first place, and it can also prevent consulting the page (a delay tactic)
      - brokenmachine 2y ago
        Good points.

some_furry 2y ago

That's a tough question to answer without devolving into politics, which is off topic for Hacker News. I think that's also the wrong question to ask. "Who's doing it?" is less interesting than "What's enabling them to succeed?"

slater 2y ago
Politics isn't fully off-topic on HN; per guidelines, most political stuff is off-topic, "unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon" https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

kristopolous 2y ago

Anyone who doesn't like the availability and accessibility of history and documents. Lots of people want to rewrite or erase history. Quoting a story I wrote about this a few years ago: "Everything you speak, all ideas, all things, all thoughts, they are all of the past. Society and knowledge is a composite of the shadows of former presents. When people lie or misrepresent knowledge they speak of a past they wish to change. What if people who have the most to gain from deceit had a tool to actually change the past and make these lies the truth?" Here it is if you're curious https://kristopolous.medium.com/stephen-hawking-had-a-time-traveler-birthday-party-where-he-invited-time-travelers-from-the-510f494a4063 https://kristopolous.medium.com/stephen-hawking-had-a-time-t...