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New 9/11 Evidence Points to Deep Saudi Complicity

43 points by racional 2y ago

racional 2y ago
https://archive.is/QWT21 https://archive.is/QWT21
kilpikaarna 2y ago
New evidence that conveniently shows up now that SA is showing signs of getting cozy with China.
paulpauper 2y ago
pre-911, entering and staying in the US was easy. It did not take some mastermind network. even today, millions of Americans are undocumented
h2odragon 2y ago
Once again "conspiracy theories" turn out to have been spoiler alerts.
- Pompidou 2y ago
  I disagree. Most of content on conspiracy forums and sites regarding 911 tell 1) that the attack was a US inside job 2) no plane really hit pentagon neither WTC, 3)if a foreign country is involved then it must be Israel. It is also what was said back then. As far as I remember,it was journalists and analysts who pointed Saudi Arabia.
  - jasonvorhe 2y ago
    I think the main issue is that people still think in terms of nation states while rolling their eyes once you even mention terms such as "deep state" despite the many books that have been written about it that provide insights into the way these people operate. People also think that there must be some cliche villain pulling all the strings when it is instead much more likely that different factions with different goals either collaborate or sabotage each other and that they're all well connected and funded and have deep ties to many intelligence agencies, private military contractors and undercover operatives who work in various organisations (media, cabinets, military, banking, pharma, etc). A trail can lead to factions of various nation state's military industrial complexes without that being a contradiction in itself. That's definitely not the world I'd chose to live in but closing my eyes and hoping that it's all just make believe by some conspiracy nutjobs seems rather... ignorant.
netsharc 2y ago
Smells like some powerful people, maybe in the government, were probably supporting the terrorists, considering there were interventions when the embassy staff was about to be fired for having jihadist material. Does this mean a complicit government? Even in the US congress you still have plenty of current members who were complicit during an attempted overthrow of the US government (however disorganized, clumsy and futile it was). And as the article says, the Saudi leadership has gone through some changes in the last 23 years.. Still, the Saudi embassy still helps criminals (rapists) flee home, giving them passports with fake identities (can you call them fake passports if a government issued them?) https://www.propublica.org/article/saudi-fugitives-accused-of-serious-crimes-get-help-to-flee-while-u-s-officials-look-the-other-way https://www.propublica.org/article/saudi-fugitives-accused-o...
jjtheblunt 2y ago
Saudi support of some 9/11 terrorists was widely discussed as proven 20 years ago. Is this "revelation" a politically timed article?
tonetegeatinst 2y ago
I'm not really into conspiracy theory's and stuff....but I did remember the who PATRIOT act passing..... I'm 95% sure this was already known at a certain level. Middle eastern money was known to have help funded this....hell its not even rumored it was joked about how middle easter oil money funded Osama bin laden. Even if what we think is true is false, I doubt any conspiracy theory is actually correct. Its just such a big event, with so many people arguing different takes on it. In some ways its weird looking back at 9/11 and remembering just how much it changed so many aspects of our life.
hasselhoftd 2y ago
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43 points by racional 2y ago

racional 2y ago

https://archive.is/QWT21 https://archive.is/QWT21

kilpikaarna 2y ago

New evidence that conveniently shows up now that SA is showing signs of getting cozy with China.

paulpauper 2y ago

pre-911, entering and staying in the US was easy. It did not take some mastermind network. even today, millions of Americans are undocumented

h2odragon 2y ago

Once again "conspiracy theories" turn out to have been spoiler alerts.

Pompidou 2y ago
I disagree. Most of content on conspiracy forums and sites regarding 911 tell 1) that the attack was a US inside job 2) no plane really hit pentagon neither WTC, 3)if a foreign country is involved then it must be Israel. It is also what was said back then. As far as I remember,it was journalists and analysts who pointed Saudi Arabia.
- jasonvorhe 2y ago
  I think the main issue is that people still think in terms of nation states while rolling their eyes once you even mention terms such as "deep state" despite the many books that have been written about it that provide insights into the way these people operate. People also think that there must be some cliche villain pulling all the strings when it is instead much more likely that different factions with different goals either collaborate or sabotage each other and that they're all well connected and funded and have deep ties to many intelligence agencies, private military contractors and undercover operatives who work in various organisations (media, cabinets, military, banking, pharma, etc). A trail can lead to factions of various nation state's military industrial complexes without that being a contradiction in itself. That's definitely not the world I'd chose to live in but closing my eyes and hoping that it's all just make believe by some conspiracy nutjobs seems rather... ignorant.

netsharc 2y ago

Smells like some powerful people, maybe in the government, were probably supporting the terrorists, considering there were interventions when the embassy staff was about to be fired for having jihadist material. Does this mean a complicit government? Even in the US congress you still have plenty of current members who were complicit during an attempted overthrow of the US government (however disorganized, clumsy and futile it was). And as the article says, the Saudi leadership has gone through some changes in the last 23 years.. Still, the Saudi embassy still helps criminals (rapists) flee home, giving them passports with fake identities (can you call them fake passports if a government issued them?) https://www.propublica.org/article/saudi-fugitives-accused-of-serious-crimes-get-help-to-flee-while-u-s-officials-look-the-other-way https://www.propublica.org/article/saudi-fugitives-accused-o...

jjtheblunt 2y ago

Saudi support of some 9/11 terrorists was widely discussed as proven 20 years ago. Is this "revelation" a politically timed article?

tonetegeatinst 2y ago

I'm not really into conspiracy theory's and stuff....but I did remember the who PATRIOT act passing..... I'm 95% sure this was already known at a certain level. Middle eastern money was known to have help funded this....hell its not even rumored it was joked about how middle easter oil money funded Osama bin laden. Even if what we think is true is false, I doubt any conspiracy theory is actually correct. Its just such a big event, with so many people arguing different takes on it. In some ways its weird looking back at 9/11 and remembering just how much it changed so many aspects of our life.

hasselhoftd 2y ago

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