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The biggest problem with depression is the failure to see that it's essentially only women affected; men are only secondary victims. In 2014 is was 200-300% mo

The biggest problem with depression is the failure to see that it's essentially only women affected; men are only secondary victims. In 2014 is was 200-300% more women then men. 2020 it was about 500% more women. 2024 and it's pushing up toward 600%. The pandemic was particularly bad on women. https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/Intellectual_Life/Stevenson_ParadoxDecliningFemaleHappiness_Dec08.pdf https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/documents/pdf/Intel... The not-a-paradox at all issue has been well studied. You might say but there are men who are depressed; but the men who are depressed are almost certainly a cause of depressed mothers or spouses whose depression and abuse and depress the man. >KRYSTAL: Well, the story is more complicated than one neurotransmitter per nerve cell. It's old news that SSRIs are of low efficacy because it's but 1 of the transmitters. But the take away isn't that we need 50 more SSRI equivalents. It's that perhaps we should help women with their depression. But from my point of view every man who has ever attempted to help has been called sexist, misogynistic, etc.

jalapenos 2y ago
Thank you for this laugh. Out of interest, if a guy is stranded on an island alone, and he's depressed, how do you work out the woman who's actually the depressed one? Do you work out the geographically closest one and say it's her?
- incomingpain 2y ago
  >Out of interest, if a guy is stranded on an island alone, and he's depressed, how do you work out the woman who's actually the depressed one? Do you work out the geographically closest one and say it's her? The context of the article is depression, the mental state in which requires a health professional to diagnose and help with. Not the "I feel a little down right now" == depressed. Kind of a weakness is language here. I never said men can't be depressed. Statistically it's tremendously improbable for a man to be depressed; probably in the error amount of category where differential diagnosis is probably far more valid here. Misdiagnosis is a known major factor for men and depression. Though it's not entirely impossible for a man to be depressed. You could argue that men are as depressed and some sort of social construct is hiding it. Perhaps the book "I dont want to talk about it" by terrence real. Or you could argue that the current understanding and statistics of depression is wrong. As for your scenario about a guy depressed on an island. So many questions then arise. Does he perhaps have BPD, cPTSD, etc? Does he have a legitimate diagnosis and what are the steps they've taken to solve his depression in that weekend? How did he end up on the island and still be depressed? IT's a very odd scenario to me sorry. If cPTSD, it's likely his mother's fault. Doesn't matter geographically where she is. Dont take me as blaming women or something like that. In fact, it's mostly the opposite. Men are essentially to be blamed here.
  - jalapenos 2y ago
    Yes you sound like you've drank the college Kool aid that men are oppressors to blame for everything and we don't have to worry about them, and woman are blameless victims no matter what. I hope one day you'll look back on your youth and realise how foolish you were to let others lead you astray from fairness and reason and into evil like that. Either that or you've got some complexes yourself from an abusive childhood or whatever, and you're projecting your internal declarations about a particular man onto men generally, wrongfully, since in the real world men absolutely get depressed, not as a side effect of someone else's depression, far fewer people care, and they're far more likely to suicide as a result.
agos 2y ago
or mayyyybe men don't report depression because they're not used to speaking about their feelings, are made fun of when they do, and instead they're repeatedly told not to cry, and to tough it out
SR2Z 2y ago
Depression in men presents differently (anger instead of hopelessness) and is likely to go undiagnosed because of that and the taboo against men making negative emotional displays.

jalapenos 2y ago

Thank you for this laugh. Out of interest, if a guy is stranded on an island alone, and he's depressed, how do you work out the woman who's actually the depressed one? Do you work out the geographically closest one and say it's her?

incomingpain 2y ago
>Out of interest, if a guy is stranded on an island alone, and he's depressed, how do you work out the woman who's actually the depressed one? Do you work out the geographically closest one and say it's her? The context of the article is depression, the mental state in which requires a health professional to diagnose and help with. Not the "I feel a little down right now" == depressed. Kind of a weakness is language here. I never said men can't be depressed. Statistically it's tremendously improbable for a man to be depressed; probably in the error amount of category where differential diagnosis is probably far more valid here. Misdiagnosis is a known major factor for men and depression. Though it's not entirely impossible for a man to be depressed. You could argue that men are as depressed and some sort of social construct is hiding it. Perhaps the book "I dont want to talk about it" by terrence real. Or you could argue that the current understanding and statistics of depression is wrong. As for your scenario about a guy depressed on an island. So many questions then arise. Does he perhaps have BPD, cPTSD, etc? Does he have a legitimate diagnosis and what are the steps they've taken to solve his depression in that weekend? How did he end up on the island and still be depressed? IT's a very odd scenario to me sorry. If cPTSD, it's likely his mother's fault. Doesn't matter geographically where she is. Dont take me as blaming women or something like that. In fact, it's mostly the opposite. Men are essentially to be blamed here.
- jalapenos 2y ago
  Yes you sound like you've drank the college Kool aid that men are oppressors to blame for everything and we don't have to worry about them, and woman are blameless victims no matter what. I hope one day you'll look back on your youth and realise how foolish you were to let others lead you astray from fairness and reason and into evil like that. Either that or you've got some complexes yourself from an abusive childhood or whatever, and you're projecting your internal declarations about a particular man onto men generally, wrongfully, since in the real world men absolutely get depressed, not as a side effect of someone else's depression, far fewer people care, and they're far more likely to suicide as a result.

agos 2y ago

or mayyyybe men don't report depression because they're not used to speaking about their feelings, are made fun of when they do, and instead they're repeatedly told not to cry, and to tough it out

SR2Z 2y ago

Depression in men presents differently (anger instead of hopelessness) and is likely to go undiagnosed because of that and the taboo against men making negative emotional displays.