5 ms·

This kind of thing has happened repeatedly, but kinda misses the point. Stalkerware is designed and built as a tool of abuse. The people who create it are loo

by rgmerk 2y ago

This kind of thing has happened repeatedly, but kinda misses the point. Stalkerware is designed and built as a tool of abuse. The people who create it are looking to profit off that abuse. More effort should be devoted to prosecuting these bottom-feeders.

TiredOfLife 2y ago
US and other countries are moving to classify more and more things as "not a crime" like car theft or shoplifting. So don't hold your hope up.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  Can you back this up somehow? I haven't heard of or seen anything indicating that the US, or any other country, is trying to make car theft or petty theft legal.
  - halfcat 2y ago
    They’re probably referring to situations in California where people walk out with merchandise because the penalties are less than the merch they’re getting. It’s less of a “the way things are headed” in the US, and more of a side effect of the state-level political games each side is playing, where blue states score points by loosening penalties, and red states score points by tightening penalties. Neither population of state citizens is right or wrong, but rather they’re all pawns. As someone put it, the politicians have organized the country into two LARPing teams to keep everyone distracted while they run out the back door with the money.
  - mk67 2y ago
    From what I read it's not prosecuted in San Francisco e.g. anymore.
  - antifa 2y ago
    They're just derailing to what about their unrelated political grandstand.
- rgmerk 2y ago
  Not taking sides on this one because I don’t live in San Francisco and haven’t had the chance to look into these claims. But on the issue of domestic and family violence, where I live in Australia it has become a major political issue, and there have been significant changes to law and policy to try and reduce the risks. In this case, we are dealing with a relatively small number of people selling a product intended to facilitate what is recognised in most jurisdictions as a serious crime. As such, putting more effort into finding and prosecuting (or suing) these people seems like a worthwhile investment - but because it’s a global market there needs to be global cooperation to achieve much.

by rgmerk 2y ago

TiredOfLife 2y ago

US and other countries are moving to classify more and more things as "not a crime" like car theft or shoplifting. So don't hold your hope up.

ziddoap 2y ago
Can you back this up somehow? I haven't heard of or seen anything indicating that the US, or any other country, is trying to make car theft or petty theft legal.
- halfcat 2y ago
  They’re probably referring to situations in California where people walk out with merchandise because the penalties are less than the merch they’re getting. It’s less of a “the way things are headed” in the US, and more of a side effect of the state-level political games each side is playing, where blue states score points by loosening penalties, and red states score points by tightening penalties. Neither population of state citizens is right or wrong, but rather they’re all pawns. As someone put it, the politicians have organized the country into two LARPing teams to keep everyone distracted while they run out the back door with the money.
- mk67 2y ago
  From what I read it's not prosecuted in San Francisco e.g. anymore.
- antifa 2y ago
  They're just derailing to what about their unrelated political grandstand.
rgmerk 2y ago
Not taking sides on this one because I don’t live in San Francisco and haven’t had the chance to look into these claims. But on the issue of domestic and family violence, where I live in Australia it has become a major political issue, and there have been significant changes to law and policy to try and reduce the risks. In this case, we are dealing with a relatively small number of people selling a product intended to facilitate what is recognised in most jurisdictions as a serious crime. As such, putting more effort into finding and prosecuting (or suing) these people seems like a worthwhile investment - but because it’s a global market there needs to be global cooperation to achieve much.