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I’m unsure if you have specific feedback or just a general misunderstanding of the point of additions like layer to the spec. At the end of the day these are a

I’m unsure if you have specific feedback or just a general misunderstanding of the point of additions like layer to the spec. At the end of the day these are all more tools in our toolbelt. If you want you can keep writing CSS the same way you always have.

paulryanrogers 2y ago
There is a concern that one can have too many tools to do the same -- or very similar -- things. This can reduce readability. Consider Perl's many ways approach to Python's (initial) goal of one way.
- orhmeh09 2y ago
  Every new release of Python 3.x further erodes this idea. I like using the new features because I find Python generally inexpressive and verbose, but I have a hard time explaining to nondevelopers who read the code about the assignment expression, keyword only arguments, structural pattern matching, typing improvements and deprecations and so on.
culi 2y ago
> At the end of the day these are all more tools in our toolbelt. If you want you can keep writing CSS the same way you always have. I don't really stand by GP's comment but I also don't think their concern can be dismissed this easily. We generally write CSS as teams. You'll have to read as much CSS as you'll have to write. Ideally you actually read more than you write so you can reuse existing rules and follow established patterns Anyone writing CSS for a day-job, an OS project, or even just following a tutorial will have to at least familiarize themselves with these concepts
- bryanrasmussen 2y ago
  it's sort of weird, there have been multiple comments where people have responded as if they write CSS all by themselves and there are no colleagues to worry about, and that they also think this is an industry-wide standard! on edit: just to note I'm generally the old guy who is pushing for people to use 'new' stuff like clamp, min, and max functions and lab color profiles, to no effect.
- willio58 2y ago
  Good point, I didn't consider this. I understand that feeling to some degree. At the same time, I think this is just how CSS has always been. Originally we had to style pages with tables and when flexbox/grid came out there were oodles of devs who refused to use them for a while. CSS is an ever-evolving toolset and I like that, but I do understand that change can feel unwarranted to some.

paulryanrogers 2y ago

There is a concern that one can have too many tools to do the same -- or very similar -- things. This can reduce readability. Consider Perl's many ways approach to Python's (initial) goal of one way.

orhmeh09 2y ago
Every new release of Python 3.x further erodes this idea. I like using the new features because I find Python generally inexpressive and verbose, but I have a hard time explaining to nondevelopers who read the code about the assignment expression, keyword only arguments, structural pattern matching, typing improvements and deprecations and so on.

culi 2y ago

> At the end of the day these are all more tools in our toolbelt. If you want you can keep writing CSS the same way you always have. I don't really stand by GP's comment but I also don't think their concern can be dismissed this easily. We generally write CSS as teams. You'll have to read as much CSS as you'll have to write. Ideally you actually read more than you write so you can reuse existing rules and follow established patterns Anyone writing CSS for a day-job, an OS project, or even just following a tutorial will have to at least familiarize themselves with these concepts

bryanrasmussen 2y ago
it's sort of weird, there have been multiple comments where people have responded as if they write CSS all by themselves and there are no colleagues to worry about, and that they also think this is an industry-wide standard! on edit: just to note I'm generally the old guy who is pushing for people to use 'new' stuff like clamp, min, and max functions and lab color profiles, to no effect.
willio58 2y ago
Good point, I didn't consider this. I understand that feeling to some degree. At the same time, I think this is just how CSS has always been. Originally we had to style pages with tables and when flexbox/grid came out there were oodles of devs who refused to use them for a while. CSS is an ever-evolving toolset and I like that, but I do understand that change can feel unwarranted to some.