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Movie ratings. They censored themselves to avoid the government stepping in. Also professional orders like engineers, accountants and teachers in some places I

Movie ratings. They censored themselves to avoid the government stepping in. Also professional orders like engineers, accountants and teachers in some places I guess.

93po 2y ago
Film/TV ratings is a famously terrible, opaque process with no rhyme or reason to it at all, and everyone in hollywood hates it
- XorNot 2y ago
  Conversely the Australian experience where the government is involved is just stupid, and gives us random banned games like Bully because it triggers boomer-era moral panic.
  - defrost 2y ago
    Bully the game rated 'M' in Australia that some parent groups raised a stink about and threatened to ban ? https://www.classification.gov.au/titles/bully-1 https://www.classification.gov.au/titles/bully-1 Films and computer games classified M (Mature) are not recommended for children under the age of 15. They can have content such as violence and themes that requires a mature outlook. Children under the age of 15 may legally access this content. For an actual example of "Banned in Australia" (March 2022) see: The Board considered that the depiction of drug use in the game, Rimworld, did include “illicit or proscribed drug use related to incentives or rewards” and that therefore the Board was required to classify the game, Refused Classification. A game that has received an RC rating cannot be sold, hired, advertised, or legally imported into Australia. Rimworld: https://steamcommunity.com/app/294100 https://steamcommunity.com/app/294100 A sci-fi colony sim driven by an intelligent AI storyteller. Generates stories by simulating psychology, ecology, gunplay, melee combat, climate, biomes, diplomacy, interpersonal relationships, art, medicine, trade, and more. https://www.classification.gov.au/about-us/media-and-news/media-releases/media-statement-classification-game-rimworld https://www.classification.gov.au/about-us/media-and-news/me...
    - XorNot 2y ago
      Kind of the point? The system winds up being stupidly reactionary - at best it's the same outcome as the industry self-regulation. Tossing government enforcement on there though you wind up with the old "we're just going to ban it" as an outcome, which you always end up as because people are doing political grandstanding and that requires oneupmanship on their perceived rivals.
      - defrost 2y ago
        > Kind of the point? Not that I can see from these examples ... > The system winds up being stupidly reactionary "The system" didn't actually react to community outrage and ban Bully though, did it? It appears there are well laid out and publicised ground rules in advance (whether these are fair and reasonable and|or considered as such by how many is another discussion), and that those rules are applied on a case by case basis after review by a largely independant rotating review board who publish their decisions and reasoning. https://www.classification.gov.au/classification-ratings/how-rating-decided https://www.classification.gov.au/classification-ratings/how...
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    - maximus-decimus 2y ago
      With the video game South Park, Stick of truth, the Aussie government doesn't approve of things like mini games where underage kids get ass-raped with dildos by aliens so they to replaced the scenes with images of Koalas.
- maximus-decimus 2y ago
  I mean, they didn't ask for an example where it works well.

Movie ratings. They censored themselves to avoid the government stepping in. Also professional orders like engineers, accountants and teachers in some places I guess.

93po 2y ago

Film/TV ratings is a famously terrible, opaque process with no rhyme or reason to it at all, and everyone in hollywood hates it

XorNot 2y ago
Conversely the Australian experience where the government is involved is just stupid, and gives us random banned games like Bully because it triggers boomer-era moral panic.
- defrost 2y ago
  Bully the game rated 'M' in Australia that some parent groups raised a stink about and threatened to ban ? https://www.classification.gov.au/titles/bully-1 https://www.classification.gov.au/titles/bully-1 Films and computer games classified M (Mature) are not recommended for children under the age of 15. They can have content such as violence and themes that requires a mature outlook. Children under the age of 15 may legally access this content. For an actual example of "Banned in Australia" (March 2022) see: The Board considered that the depiction of drug use in the game, Rimworld, did include “illicit or proscribed drug use related to incentives or rewards” and that therefore the Board was required to classify the game, Refused Classification. A game that has received an RC rating cannot be sold, hired, advertised, or legally imported into Australia. Rimworld: https://steamcommunity.com/app/294100 https://steamcommunity.com/app/294100 A sci-fi colony sim driven by an intelligent AI storyteller. Generates stories by simulating psychology, ecology, gunplay, melee combat, climate, biomes, diplomacy, interpersonal relationships, art, medicine, trade, and more. https://www.classification.gov.au/about-us/media-and-news/media-releases/media-statement-classification-game-rimworld https://www.classification.gov.au/about-us/media-and-news/me...
  - XorNot 2y ago
    Kind of the point? The system winds up being stupidly reactionary - at best it's the same outcome as the industry self-regulation. Tossing government enforcement on there though you wind up with the old "we're just going to ban it" as an outcome, which you always end up as because people are doing political grandstanding and that requires oneupmanship on their perceived rivals.
    - defrost 2y ago
      > Kind of the point? Not that I can see from these examples ... > The system winds up being stupidly reactionary "The system" didn't actually react to community outrage and ban Bully though, did it? It appears there are well laid out and publicised ground rules in advance (whether these are fair and reasonable and|or considered as such by how many is another discussion), and that those rules are applied on a case by case basis after review by a largely independant rotating review board who publish their decisions and reasoning. https://www.classification.gov.au/classification-ratings/how-rating-decided https://www.classification.gov.au/classification-ratings/how...
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  - maximus-decimus 2y ago
    With the video game South Park, Stick of truth, the Aussie government doesn't approve of things like mini games where underage kids get ass-raped with dildos by aliens so they to replaced the scenes with images of Koalas.
maximus-decimus 2y ago
I mean, they didn't ask for an example where it works well.