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And let me guess these 2 want to be the ones controlling it (again but with more power)

by dmix 2y ago

toomuchtodo 2y ago
People who want to govern shouldn’t be in the role. This selects for service over seeking power.
- whimsicalism 2y ago
  good luck lol
theropost 2y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_road_to_hell_is_paved_with_good_intentions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_road_to_hell_is_paved_wi...
williamtrask 2y ago
there's really no evidence of that (in the article or otherwise)
- dmix 2y ago
  You must not have read much into these people I previously dug into Helen Toner’s history and listened to her talks at conferences on YouTube (including an Effective Altruism one) and read her interviews on other sites where she was strongly against GPT being released to the public. Then we have their behaviour and comments during the coup attempt and her temporary OpenAI CEO, Emmett Shear, she brought in who made a number of radical statements about wanting to cripple AI research before he was put forward as CEO and then he made an awkward, and very evasive, initial statement to employees that scared off many to Sam’s side. He too played coy about his intentions during that timeframe just like Helen avoided publicity despite being the spare, but her past states were revelatory. Not exactly someone’s opinion I trust. This is just being spun as a moderate stance on AI regulation by people who IRL have much more aggressive and non mainstream takes on stopping AI development. Which is why I ask who will be the caretaker in this scenario.
cpursley 2y ago
You’re getting downvoted but regulatory capture and cronyism (voting in laws that prohibit new entrants; for the greater good, of course) is a trick as old as democratic systems been have established, maybe older and perhaps not exclusive to democracy.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
  He's getting downvoted because the article specifically calls out the risks of cronyism and regulatory capture. A paywall workaround was posted: https://archive.is/wbwC2 https://archive.is/wbwC2. It would benefit a lot of commenters here if they actually read the article first.
  - cpursley 2y ago
    Thanks. I really wish there was automoderation or even conversion to archive.is of paywalled articles here.

And let me guess these 2 want to be the ones controlling it (again but with more power)

by dmix 2y ago

And let me guess these 2 want to be the ones controlling it (again but with more power)

toomuchtodo 2y ago

People who want to govern shouldn’t be in the role. This selects for service over seeking power.

whimsicalism 2y ago
good luck lol

theropost 2y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_road_to_hell_is_paved_with_good_intentions https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_road_to_hell_is_paved_wi...

williamtrask 2y ago

there's really no evidence of that (in the article or otherwise)

dmix 2y ago
You must not have read much into these people I previously dug into Helen Toner’s history and listened to her talks at conferences on YouTube (including an Effective Altruism one) and read her interviews on other sites where she was strongly against GPT being released to the public. Then we have their behaviour and comments during the coup attempt and her temporary OpenAI CEO, Emmett Shear, she brought in who made a number of radical statements about wanting to cripple AI research before he was put forward as CEO and then he made an awkward, and very evasive, initial statement to employees that scared off many to Sam’s side. He too played coy about his intentions during that timeframe just like Helen avoided publicity despite being the spare, but her past states were revelatory. Not exactly someone’s opinion I trust. This is just being spun as a moderate stance on AI regulation by people who IRL have much more aggressive and non mainstream takes on stopping AI development. Which is why I ask who will be the caretaker in this scenario.

cpursley 2y ago

You’re getting downvoted but regulatory capture and cronyism (voting in laws that prohibit new entrants; for the greater good, of course) is a trick as old as democratic systems been have established, maybe older and perhaps not exclusive to democracy.

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
He's getting downvoted because the article specifically calls out the risks of cronyism and regulatory capture. A paywall workaround was posted: https://archive.is/wbwC2 https://archive.is/wbwC2. It would benefit a lot of commenters here if they actually read the article first.
- cpursley 2y ago
  Thanks. I really wish there was automoderation or even conversion to archive.is of paywalled articles here.