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I don’t like this but I also don’t know the alternatives. People drag race right in front of my house all night long on the weekends. It’s absurdly dangerous.

I don’t like this but I also don’t know the alternatives. People drag race right in front of my house all night long on the weekends. It’s absurdly dangerous. We are on the edge of a residential neighborhood (so our house faces the main road), and a few blocks from a police station. The police do nothing. I don’t think I’ve seen somebody “pulled over” in my city in like a decade. A few days ago I say a guy pull into the oncoming traffic lanes and hit the top of 3rd gear to cut in front of a line of cars at a stop light. Just absolutely insane, deranged behavior and I see it every single day. Edit: I was mistaken and thought this limited speed. Apparently this is actually useless.

gizmo686 2y ago
I don't think this will help with that. From the text of the bill, the only requirement is that the system alerts the driver when they are more than 10mph over the limit. The system us not required to limit the vehicle speed, nor is it required to report the infraction to the authorities.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  So it's just another annoying fuse to pull. Along with OnStar and the cell modem.
- thepasswordis 2y ago
  Ah, my mistake. I had been reading about this and read “passive speed limiter” as something that…limits the speed. This sounds absolutely and completely useless.
rnrn 2y ago
> The police do nothing. > I don’t think I’ve seen somebody “pulled over” in my city in like a decade Seems like there’s a pretty straightforward alternative here - have law enforcement enforce the law.
- CoastalCoder 2y ago
  > Seems like there’s a pretty straightforward alternative here - have law enforcement enforce the law. As a law-and-order kind of person, this my first reaction as well. But it seems so obvious, I have to wonder: what's at work that prevents this solution from being enacted? I.e., are there factors I'm not aware of that make it logistically and/or politically difficult?
  - ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
    Traffic stops (and domestic abuse) are some of the most dangerous things a cop does. Even if not dangerous, it's likely the things that get them the most abuse. When something is dangerous or unpleasant, even if we are paid to do it, we will often hesitate to do it.
    - adrr 2y ago
      Not sure where you live but our cops do nothing but give out traffic tickets. Hide at lights that are really long and ticket people who grab their phone while waiting. They pick random low volume stop signs and hand out tickets to people who have been accustomed to rolling them.
      - ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
        Around here, the cops don't like getting out of their cars, so their speed traps are visible a mile down the road. In MD, however, it was a very different story. They would hide behind bushes.
  - rnrn 2y ago
    In some cities in CA, the police department is understaffed (and traffic law enforcement particularly so) because 1) pension reform / reductions, 2) housing costs and general cost of living making police salaries unattractive, and 3) unpopularity of police as a job choice. Also probably they spend their budget importing fentanyl or buying office furniture from their brother or something (mostly tongue in cheek here, and I certainly haven’t done or seen an audit but unfortunately “inspired by true events”)
1-6 2y ago
They just need to reinstate curfews for certain neighborhoods and arrest those who are in violation of that. There are better knobs to twist.
- Loughla 2y ago
  I genuinely can't tell if you're being serious or not. Are you?
greymalik 2y ago
I’m sure a beep from their car will put an end to that.
ultimoo 2y ago
bay area?
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rainsford 2y ago
I'm curious why you don't like the idea, because in my opinion it doesn't go far enough and should instead require active speed limitation in new vehicles (i.e. the car is prevented for exceeding the speed limit by a certain amount or at least has a much lower top speed governor). For something as regulated and potentially dangerous as driving, it seems pretty silly that cars are able to massively exceed legal speeds, particular since it's a "feature" that plenty of people take advantage of regularly with very little in the way of consequences.
TulliusCicero 2y ago
Speed camera? Road diet/speed bumps? Or, y'know, having police enforce the law.
adrr 2y ago
Problem is law enforcement not enforcing the law. It is not the lack of laws.

gizmo686 2y ago

I don't think this will help with that. From the text of the bill, the only requirement is that the system alerts the driver when they are more than 10mph over the limit. The system us not required to limit the vehicle speed, nor is it required to report the infraction to the authorities.

ryandrake 2y ago
So it's just another annoying fuse to pull. Along with OnStar and the cell modem.
thepasswordis 2y ago
Ah, my mistake. I had been reading about this and read “passive speed limiter” as something that…limits the speed. This sounds absolutely and completely useless.

rnrn 2y ago

> The police do nothing. > I don’t think I’ve seen somebody “pulled over” in my city in like a decade Seems like there’s a pretty straightforward alternative here - have law enforcement enforce the law.

CoastalCoder 2y ago
> Seems like there’s a pretty straightforward alternative here - have law enforcement enforce the law. As a law-and-order kind of person, this my first reaction as well. But it seems so obvious, I have to wonder: what's at work that prevents this solution from being enacted? I.e., are there factors I'm not aware of that make it logistically and/or politically difficult?
- ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
  Traffic stops (and domestic abuse) are some of the most dangerous things a cop does. Even if not dangerous, it's likely the things that get them the most abuse. When something is dangerous or unpleasant, even if we are paid to do it, we will often hesitate to do it.
  - adrr 2y ago
    Not sure where you live but our cops do nothing but give out traffic tickets. Hide at lights that are really long and ticket people who grab their phone while waiting. They pick random low volume stop signs and hand out tickets to people who have been accustomed to rolling them.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
      Around here, the cops don't like getting out of their cars, so their speed traps are visible a mile down the road. In MD, however, it was a very different story. They would hide behind bushes.
- rnrn 2y ago
  In some cities in CA, the police department is understaffed (and traffic law enforcement particularly so) because 1) pension reform / reductions, 2) housing costs and general cost of living making police salaries unattractive, and 3) unpopularity of police as a job choice. Also probably they spend their budget importing fentanyl or buying office furniture from their brother or something (mostly tongue in cheek here, and I certainly haven’t done or seen an audit but unfortunately “inspired by true events”)

1-6 2y ago

They just need to reinstate curfews for certain neighborhoods and arrest those who are in violation of that. There are better knobs to twist.

Loughla 2y ago
I genuinely can't tell if you're being serious or not. Are you?

greymalik 2y ago

I’m sure a beep from their car will put an end to that.

ultimoo 2y ago

bay area?

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rainsford 2y ago

I'm curious why you don't like the idea, because in my opinion it doesn't go far enough and should instead require active speed limitation in new vehicles (i.e. the car is prevented for exceeding the speed limit by a certain amount or at least has a much lower top speed governor). For something as regulated and potentially dangerous as driving, it seems pretty silly that cars are able to massively exceed legal speeds, particular since it's a "feature" that plenty of people take advantage of regularly with very little in the way of consequences.

TulliusCicero 2y ago

Speed camera? Road diet/speed bumps? Or, y'know, having police enforce the law.

adrr 2y ago

Problem is law enforcement not enforcing the law. It is not the lack of laws.