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Does anyone here actually used Khanmigo and can share experience with it? It is still not available in my country. The whole thread is cesspool of AI bad, M$ ba

Does anyone here actually used Khanmigo and can share experience with it? It is still not available in my country. The whole thread is cesspool of AI bad, M$ bad, we are doomed.

ern 2y ago
I’ve generally gotten that vibe from most of these threads. No I haven’t used it, but I can say that ChatGPT 4.0 has been a huge helping me tutoring one of my children in math. We previously had college students tutoring him, and it turned out they were not very good. I have a fairly solid, although dated background, so it helps me refresh concepts and to find mistakes. I don’t let him use the AI directly though.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
On the contrary I got the opposite vibe here of "wow this is great the future is here" vibes and am a bit confused. Do people really want to replace their human teacher for school children? No I haven't used it. I don't like how it's being marketed though. I very much do not trust GPT 4 on the level where I am ready to have it educate the young.
- eganist 2y ago
  Honestly, if there ever exists a web-focused LLM that's hyper-competent in media literacy, I'd be happy to delegate to it the job of teaching my kids. We don't expect the most of our teachers, nor do we effectively compensate them for such an important role, so I'm more inclined to trust an LLM that can capably sift through all the data online and teach from what it understands to be true. Which essentially means the hallucination problem needs to be solved, which is a ways off.
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    >We don't expect the most of our teachers, nor do we effectively compensate them for such an important role, If the government spent a fraction of the money tech is using to hype up LLMs on compensating teachers, we wouldnt have this mindset. We shouldn't have such thoughts of "we don't expect the most of our techaers" to begin with. Paying teachers more is a lot easier than solving hallucinations (as you probably saw, even Google is needing To manually edit gemini responses. The kings of automation). The (sad) state of things in the world right now mean teacher will be seeing your kid almost as much as you will. Maybe even more. So we should be more particular in who that person is, and what lessons they bestow on students. You wouldn't let any ol stranger baby sit your kid, so why the same for teachers?
    - eganist 2y ago
      Teachers should be compensated as much as doctors and held to the same academic rigor, but then we'd run up against the rude reality that those of us who are well off tend to hate the idea of paying for such a feature e.g through taxes. Grants got me through school, so I'm content being taxed up the nose. But I'm an outlier in my tax bracket for that opinion.
      - johnnyanmac 2y ago
        I'm another outlier too. If I had to choose between proper public school resources and privately schooling my child, I'd do the former 100%. Not everyone has the funding to do the latter, and public schooling shouldn't be a "punishment" for being poor (I was raised in public schools. Albeit my closest high school was a charter school, so there's quirks I admittedly dodged around ). But yeah, "individualism culture".
gnicholas 2y ago
A commenter in a recent thread shared a disappointing experience with Khanmigo. It repeatedly told the user that 6 * 2 was not 12: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40441567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40441567

Does anyone here actually used Khanmigo and can share experience with it? It is still not available in my country. The whole thread is cesspool of AI bad, M$ bad, we are doomed.

ern 2y ago

I’ve generally gotten that vibe from most of these threads. No I haven’t used it, but I can say that ChatGPT 4.0 has been a huge helping me tutoring one of my children in math. We previously had college students tutoring him, and it turned out they were not very good. I have a fairly solid, although dated background, so it helps me refresh concepts and to find mistakes. I don’t let him use the AI directly though.

johnnyanmac 2y ago

On the contrary I got the opposite vibe here of "wow this is great the future is here" vibes and am a bit confused. Do people really want to replace their human teacher for school children? No I haven't used it. I don't like how it's being marketed though. I very much do not trust GPT 4 on the level where I am ready to have it educate the young.

eganist 2y ago
Honestly, if there ever exists a web-focused LLM that's hyper-competent in media literacy, I'd be happy to delegate to it the job of teaching my kids. We don't expect the most of our teachers, nor do we effectively compensate them for such an important role, so I'm more inclined to trust an LLM that can capably sift through all the data online and teach from what it understands to be true. Which essentially means the hallucination problem needs to be solved, which is a ways off.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  >We don't expect the most of our teachers, nor do we effectively compensate them for such an important role, If the government spent a fraction of the money tech is using to hype up LLMs on compensating teachers, we wouldnt have this mindset. We shouldn't have such thoughts of "we don't expect the most of our techaers" to begin with. Paying teachers more is a lot easier than solving hallucinations (as you probably saw, even Google is needing To manually edit gemini responses. The kings of automation). The (sad) state of things in the world right now mean teacher will be seeing your kid almost as much as you will. Maybe even more. So we should be more particular in who that person is, and what lessons they bestow on students. You wouldn't let any ol stranger baby sit your kid, so why the same for teachers?
  - eganist 2y ago
    Teachers should be compensated as much as doctors and held to the same academic rigor, but then we'd run up against the rude reality that those of us who are well off tend to hate the idea of paying for such a feature e.g through taxes. Grants got me through school, so I'm content being taxed up the nose. But I'm an outlier in my tax bracket for that opinion.
    - johnnyanmac 2y ago
      I'm another outlier too. If I had to choose between proper public school resources and privately schooling my child, I'd do the former 100%. Not everyone has the funding to do the latter, and public schooling shouldn't be a "punishment" for being poor (I was raised in public schools. Albeit my closest high school was a charter school, so there's quirks I admittedly dodged around ). But yeah, "individualism culture".

gnicholas 2y ago

A commenter in a recent thread shared a disappointing experience with Khanmigo. It repeatedly told the user that 6 * 2 was not 12: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40441567 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40441567