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The Chinese solved this by adding more cameras. If you can lookup where the potential suspect came from and pull their full details from the fuzzy query false p

The Chinese solved this by adding more cameras. If you can lookup where the potential suspect came from and pull their full details from the fuzzy query false positives become unlikely. More data is the answer! lol

nitwit005 2y ago
It's essentislly impossible to eliminate false positives. With billions of people on the planet, the odds of someone looking extremely similar is high. Plenty of actual twins around as well.
- int_19h 2y ago
  I'm sure there are other things that could be captured and analyzed aside from images. Gait, perhaps? It's similar to web tracking - each individual method might be very unreliable, but the intersection of them can be extremely specific. Or just implant RFID into every citizen at birth. It's for your safety, after all - if you get lost or abducted, that's how they'll find you.
perihelions 2y ago
Not sure why this comment's gray; it's a good point (and a sobering one). In the very near feature, Western countries likely won't be relying on individual surveillance cameras; we'll have end-to-end chains of cameras that will confirm, with confidence, which house a person walked out of 2 hours ago, right down to their interior flat entrance inside an apartment block. (As the PRC is currently trialing). We'll have near-perfect panopticon identity systems, associating facial recognition with place of residence, and dozens of other factors. It's very important to ponder what the PRC is pioneering today because we're about three years behind doing exactly the same things, and for the same reasons. It's only going to be a brief time before things we're horrified about, and vitriolically condemn totalitarian states for, are things we're going to fully normalize within our own culture.
- nurple 2y ago
  This is why predator drones orbiting for days over protests is so scary, this is exactly the functionality their payload powers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARGUS-IS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARGUS-IS https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CpLdL8ONEm4 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CpLdL8ONEm4
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  Poe's law. Given a few comments here, some may parade the idea. Fully giving up privacy for security. I'd hope we give a better fight than that.

nitwit005 2y ago

It's essentislly impossible to eliminate false positives. With billions of people on the planet, the odds of someone looking extremely similar is high. Plenty of actual twins around as well.

int_19h 2y ago
I'm sure there are other things that could be captured and analyzed aside from images. Gait, perhaps? It's similar to web tracking - each individual method might be very unreliable, but the intersection of them can be extremely specific. Or just implant RFID into every citizen at birth. It's for your safety, after all - if you get lost or abducted, that's how they'll find you.

perihelions 2y ago

Not sure why this comment's gray; it's a good point (and a sobering one). In the very near feature, Western countries likely won't be relying on individual surveillance cameras; we'll have end-to-end chains of cameras that will confirm, with confidence, which house a person walked out of 2 hours ago, right down to their interior flat entrance inside an apartment block. (As the PRC is currently trialing). We'll have near-perfect panopticon identity systems, associating facial recognition with place of residence, and dozens of other factors. It's very important to ponder what the PRC is pioneering today because we're about three years behind doing exactly the same things, and for the same reasons. It's only going to be a brief time before things we're horrified about, and vitriolically condemn totalitarian states for, are things we're going to fully normalize within our own culture.

nurple 2y ago
This is why predator drones orbiting for days over protests is so scary, this is exactly the functionality their payload powers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARGUS-IS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARGUS-IS https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CpLdL8ONEm4 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CpLdL8ONEm4
johnnyanmac 2y ago
Poe's law. Given a few comments here, some may parade the idea. Fully giving up privacy for security. I'd hope we give a better fight than that.