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Anyone know of a terminal for Linux with this feature?
by BeefySwain 2y ago
Anyone know of a terminal for Linux with this feature?
- fiddlerwoaroof 2y agoI haven’t found a great Linux terminal: it’s one of the things that really makes it hard for me to use Linux
- naikrovek 2y agoWhat? Xterm is amazing.
- coldtea 2y agoParent means with those kind of features something like iTerm has
- fiddlerwoaroof 2y agoiTerm2 has a ton of quality of life features that no alternate terminal comes close to: automatically detecting tables in output and handling copy/paste correctly. Quick navigation between shell prompts, etc. If emacs wasn’t really slow with long lines in buffers and high volume output, it could be better
- naikrovek 2y agoThe correct way to handle copy and paste in a terminal is to copy what is selected verbatim and to paste whatever is in the clipboard verbatim. Interpretation of intent and “helping” the user are neither needed nor desired, and at best leave everything alone and at worst misinterpret and get in the way. I have never copied anything out of a terminal and gotten anything other than what I copied when I pasted into sublime text, and I’ve never used iterm2. Are you talking about copying from a terminal and pasting into OneNote or some other “more than plain text” application or something?
- fiddlerwoaroof 2y agoNo, I’m talking about noticing that you have a tmux or vim split and restricting the selection to one side or another of the split so that you can select the actual text rather than some random nonsensical text. This is the single feature I miss the most in any other terminal emulator.
- naikrovek 2y agoAh, ok. I don’t use tmux or any other multiplexer, I handle that problem differently.
- iforgotpassword 2y agoI prefer manual control. Simply holding down Ctrl while selecting creates a rectangular selection in pretty much every terminal, which works in all those cases.
- DEADMINCE 2y agoPeople tend to get attached to certain methods/ways and then defend that no matter what.
- chalupaman 2y agoAt least in the terminals I’ve used so far, holding down Ctrl causes you select the displayed form, not the verbatim form of what you’re highlighting. That is, if you’re in vim looking at a file with 10 long lines, selecting them this way will only select the portion that fits onto your screen, not the entire lines. And if your editor visually wraps them so they do fit on the screen, selecting this way will introduce unwanted line breaks, such that copying 10 lines and pasting can create 23 lines. The iTerm2 feature being discussed means that selecting works the same way it does for graphical programs like Gedit or Pycharm or Word — if you select 10 lines you select 10 lines and your window size, font size and visual wrap setting don’t factor into it, and when you paste, you paste what you copied as it was. I would say this is the intuitive and reasonable behavior, but it’s one that is not simple to implement. A visual word wrap should be a purely visual thing and s back to back Cut and Paste should result in nothing changing.
- dmd 2y ago> automatically detecting tables in output What is this? I've been using iterm2 for years and don't know about this (and can't seem to find anything mentioning it).
- fiddlerwoaroof 2y agohttps://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/364888/how-can-i-limit-iterm2-text-selection-to-a-single-tmux-pane https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/364888/how-can-i-l... “Tables” is imprecise, but is one use-case: it’s more about identifying soft boundaries like the lines between tmux or vim splits and limiting the selection to one side of the split. If you have pipe-delimited tables, it lets you select a single column of values.
- dmd 2y ago!!! THANK YOU !!! (and George Nachman) I had no idea this existed and this is a dozens-of-times-daily pain point for me.
- haskman 2y agoI just tried with kitty, and konsole, on linux and selecting text within a tmux split works perfectly. So does copy-paste (use Ctrl-Shift-C instead of Ctrl-C).
- fiddlerwoaroof 2y agoIs this through tmux’s mouse mode? Can you select three lines of only the left side of the session? Does this also work in vim and other places that draw soft boundaries on the screen? I just tried this in kitty and it didn’t work
- haskman 2y agoYes I see what you mean. I have tmux mouse mode enabled which makes this possible. This works in nvim as well because it also has mouse support. Presumably iTerm supports selecting text in a single pane even when you have mouse mode turned off. IMO this setting belongs with the application, and especially with tmux and nvim supporting this natively, you don't really need the terminal itself to implement some potentially fallible heuristic. For example with iTerm if you accidentally drag outside the pane boundary, the selection immediately expands to include both the panes, which is not ideal.
- fiddlerwoaroof 2y agoI like it because I can design programs to output pipe-delimited tables and selection works correctly (I also hate terminal apps that use the mouse and disable mouse mode everywhere so that mouse selection in the terminal works predictably)
- mgkimsal 2y ago"handling copy/paste correctly." Sometime in the last year, iterm2 started adding ~00~ crap around stuff I paste. then some yellow 'alert' box at the top indicating I'm doing something wrong and do I want to keep doing it. makes 0 sense to me, and... annoying because it didn't do it for the first... 6-7+ years I used it. My behaviour didn't change, but iterm2 starts breaking. No doubt there's some 100% logical explanation as to what changed such that my standard copy/paste is 'wrong' now, but... would have preferred they'd have kept the original behaviour.
- fiddlerwoaroof 2y agoThis is probably the bracketed paste feature: https://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm-paste64.html https://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm-paste64.html There’s a toggle in the terminal settings
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