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I'm talking about tech companies. The list of tech companies you quoted, if that's the best you could find, is definitely proving my point.

by bsaul 2y ago

newswasboring 2y ago
Companies is not somehow the highest form of tech. Academic contributions are equally as valid. I understand we are on HN but let's not overtly glorify companies this much.
pjmlp 2y ago
Cherry picking when proven wrong.
- bsaul 2y ago
  Or rather preventing moving goalpost. You’re citing nokia, founded in the 19th century, and SAP, founded 54 years ago, as a counter-argument to my assertion that EU isn’t good at creating tech companies. Should I have added that i was talking about the current century ? You also talk about university and technologies created in their research labs. Which is totally irrelevant to my point. I’m talking about the fact that EU definitely has a problem in its ability to create strong technology business and brands, and that it’s starting to become a huge problem for our economy. It was an economical statement, and you completely missed the point.
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    Nope, I thought you would be clever enough to fill the remaining ... Those university research labs power many computing stacks nowadays, without which the American companies that depend on them for their existence would have had a complete different outcome going to market. Rest assured, thanks to the way US is behaving with globalisation, if we don't get ourselves busies fighting yet another war, we might as well create The Great Wall of Europe, with Linux Desktop running on RISC-V. There you have it, Finn technology, with a Swiss hardware consortium.
    - bsaul 2y ago
      Economy as in “making profit and creating jobs”. Which those american tech companies do, and our university don’t. i’m not even sure if you’re trolling now..
      - pjmlp 2y ago
        If thought people got paid while working at universities, and then use that money to foster local economy. Apparently not.

I'm talking about tech companies. The list of tech companies you quoted, if that's the best you could find, is definitely proving my point.

by bsaul 2y ago

I'm talking about tech companies. The list of tech companies you quoted, if that's the best you could find, is definitely proving my point.

newswasboring 2y ago

Companies is not somehow the highest form of tech. Academic contributions are equally as valid. I understand we are on HN but let's not overtly glorify companies this much.

pjmlp 2y ago

Cherry picking when proven wrong.

bsaul 2y ago
Or rather preventing moving goalpost. You’re citing nokia, founded in the 19th century, and SAP, founded 54 years ago, as a counter-argument to my assertion that EU isn’t good at creating tech companies. Should I have added that i was talking about the current century ? You also talk about university and technologies created in their research labs. Which is totally irrelevant to my point. I’m talking about the fact that EU definitely has a problem in its ability to create strong technology business and brands, and that it’s starting to become a huge problem for our economy. It was an economical statement, and you completely missed the point.
- pjmlp 2y ago
  Nope, I thought you would be clever enough to fill the remaining ... Those university research labs power many computing stacks nowadays, without which the American companies that depend on them for their existence would have had a complete different outcome going to market. Rest assured, thanks to the way US is behaving with globalisation, if we don't get ourselves busies fighting yet another war, we might as well create The Great Wall of Europe, with Linux Desktop running on RISC-V. There you have it, Finn technology, with a Swiss hardware consortium.
  - bsaul 2y ago
    Economy as in “making profit and creating jobs”. Which those american tech companies do, and our university don’t. i’m not even sure if you’re trolling now..
    - pjmlp 2y ago
      If thought people got paid while working at universities, and then use that money to foster local economy. Apparently not.