> We don't know if telegram is secure or not. I don't have anything against Telegram personally, but that sentence is by all intents and purposes equivalent to

> We don't know if telegram is secure or not. I don't have anything against Telegram personally, but that sentence is by all intents and purposes equivalent to "Telegram is not secure". Meanwhile, every person I have met at my past affiliations who did research in security was using Signal as their main IM app. Blind trust is always bad, but I don't think that crowd was using it just for cargo-culting.