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About 10 years ago I went on a massive retagging of my library and decided to use the "Grouping" tag as a high level genre tag, while the actual "Genre" would c

by amlib 2y ago

About 10 years ago I went on a massive retagging of my library and decided to use the "Grouping" tag as a high level genre tag, while the actual "Genre" would contain all the messy/impossible to normalize subgenres. This was a suggestion I picked up from some article I read back then and seemed like a good idea, plus it was supported by a tagging plugin in MusicBrainz Picard. There were problems with mp3s that used older tagging formats and it was ultimately resolved by upgrading those to a newer version of id3. But what ultimately broke the deal was that most players had spotty or no support at all for the "Grouping" tag. Pretty much nothing wants to use the "Grouping" tag as a genre filter, if they even acknowledge its existence at all. What made it even more frustrating was that I already had to restrict (and still do) to players that properly support "Album artist" tags if I want sensible filtering/searching/listing of albums that have multiple artists credited or is a compilation of songs from different artists. So I was left with a paltry selection of players that properly supported everything I wanted (and didn't suck), couldn't even setup a subsonic server (although that had other issues too..), and NO SINGLE android app could deal with it. I eventually had to revert all this nonsense and use the "Genre" tag as god (apparently) intended. So moral of the day, (or TL;DR) don't do weird shit with tags.

ggm 2y ago
Gold response. Plex basically says "stick to an artist/album directory hierarchy and do composer somehow which doesn't conflict and Album-Artist sort tag reading is your friend but if you fuck it up I AM COMING AT YOU LIKE AN ANGRY GOOSE WITH A KNIFE" and so I dropped into line. When I do smart search on original album issue year like "60s" I find I get hit by amazing truths about what was contemporaneous music. "Switched on Bach" alongside "the Beatles" and "the song of the green berets" as well as Charles' Aznavour and Mingus, Terry Riley, Vladimir Ashkenazy, Keith Jarret, the Hollies, and Rogers & Hammertime (sorry -stein) It was a mixed up musical period. Thank God the fab four split up before the 70s. Len Deighton's spy hero listens to Stockhausen and Miles.
- defrost 2y ago
  > It was a mixed up musical period eg: Pierre Henry - Psyché Rock (1967): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDmqyjiF_NA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDmqyjiF_NA
skydhash 2y ago
I manage my collection as physical CDs. My current format for files and folder is "{album artist} - {year} - {album}/[Disc {disc #}/]{track #} {title}.ext". I mostly listen as albums, not playlists. This gave me enough information to locate music both using the filesystem and a library manager. I do have extra tags (I'm using beets to manage the collection), but I don't really bother with them. I don't bother with genre tags. And if my main collection grows enough to require them (currently ~500 albums), I think I will just be creating playlists. As for album artist, every player I came across could support it (except Rhythmbox I think). I currently have Navidrome, MPD, and Doppler (Mac) pointed at the same collection. Swinsian (Mac) does support the grouping tag.

by amlib 2y ago

ggm 2y ago

Gold response. Plex basically says "stick to an artist/album directory hierarchy and do composer somehow which doesn't conflict and Album-Artist sort tag reading is your friend but if you fuck it up I AM COMING AT YOU LIKE AN ANGRY GOOSE WITH A KNIFE" and so I dropped into line. When I do smart search on original album issue year like "60s" I find I get hit by amazing truths about what was contemporaneous music. "Switched on Bach" alongside "the Beatles" and "the song of the green berets" as well as Charles' Aznavour and Mingus, Terry Riley, Vladimir Ashkenazy, Keith Jarret, the Hollies, and Rogers & Hammertime (sorry -stein) It was a mixed up musical period. Thank God the fab four split up before the 70s. Len Deighton's spy hero listens to Stockhausen and Miles.

defrost 2y ago
> It was a mixed up musical period eg: Pierre Henry - Psyché Rock (1967): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDmqyjiF_NA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDmqyjiF_NA

skydhash 2y ago

I manage my collection as physical CDs. My current format for files and folder is "{album artist} - {year} - {album}/[Disc {disc #}/]{track #} {title}.ext". I mostly listen as albums, not playlists. This gave me enough information to locate music both using the filesystem and a library manager. I do have extra tags (I'm using beets to manage the collection), but I don't really bother with them. I don't bother with genre tags. And if my main collection grows enough to require them (currently ~500 albums), I think I will just be creating playlists. As for album artist, every player I came across could support it (except Rhythmbox I think). I currently have Navidrome, MPD, and Doppler (Mac) pointed at the same collection. Swinsian (Mac) does support the grouping tag.