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What about vaccinations? I’m talking about for mumps and stuff, things we should all agree are necessary. Those are more invasive yet we accept them today as a

by ok_dad 2y ago

What about vaccinations? I’m talking about for mumps and stuff, things we should all agree are necessary. Those are more invasive yet we accept them today as a requirement for most of society. I just don’t understand (cause I’m autistic I think) that if you think a mask might help, but it was mandatory anyways, why you would get angry then versus if they asked politely and you did it. Is that your ego or something? I totally don’t understand, but like I said, around here it was the exception for someone to not wear a mask, and those who didn’t had good reasons and were very careful to shop when less people were around and stuff like that. We care about each other where I live.

s1artibartfast 2y ago
Happy to explain further, but first I need to know more about what you can relate to. How do you feel about the ice cream analogy? Would you just be happy for the opportunity to eat ice cream and not be bothered by the gun to your head?
- ok_dad 2y ago
  I guess maybe I just won’t get it, it seems like nothing, to me, to wear a mask if requested, so I don’t get the push back. Do you feel like it’s being too submissive or something? I prefer explanations of how you feel and what your internal dialogue is when a mask is mandatory at, say, the grocer. Vaccinations are a decent corollary but those are riskier than an N95 by far, so it’s not perfect. Wearing a mask basically costs nothing, IMO, unless you’re a very specific case where it’s harmful.
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    - ok_dad 2y ago
      The ice cream analogy was stupid, that’s what I think. Ice cream isn’t a virus, it’s not even the same stakes! Do 1/100 to 1/250 people die from new ice cream varieties?
      - s1artibartfast 2y ago
        Eating ice cream is an analogy for wearing a mask, not the virus. It is something that isn't a big deal, and that I would normally enjoy doing. I guess you didnt get it
        ok_dad 2y ago
        Fair enough, everyone can’t agree on everything or communicate with each other effectively. I am particular about masks because I know several close family members who could only go out during covid when people regularly masked, and when masking wasn’t mandatory again, they couldn’t go out for a while until they came out with some new drugs after a year or so. I am fine with no masking today, but it broke my brain that roughly a quarter of people in other places of the country from here were so livid and angry because they had to be somewhat uncomfortable so that immunocompromized people could have safely shopped for necessities. Not only that, but the aforementioned fact that in places where masking was prevalent there was a decreased death rate.
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        s1artibartfast 2y ago
        That's not what it was about for them at all. Wearing a mask is a minor, even trivial thing.
      - mistermann 2y ago
        > {The ice cream analogy} was stupid, that’s what I think. Replace the token above with mandatory masking, and you have your answer. Unfortunately, if you do not like the answer (perhaps you think it is stupid) your mind may not be able to accept it. Most of reality works this way as far as I can tell.

by ok_dad 2y ago

s1artibartfast 2y ago

Happy to explain further, but first I need to know more about what you can relate to. How do you feel about the ice cream analogy? Would you just be happy for the opportunity to eat ice cream and not be bothered by the gun to your head?

ok_dad 2y ago
I guess maybe I just won’t get it, it seems like nothing, to me, to wear a mask if requested, so I don’t get the push back. Do you feel like it’s being too submissive or something? I prefer explanations of how you feel and what your internal dialogue is when a mask is mandatory at, say, the grocer. Vaccinations are a decent corollary but those are riskier than an N95 by far, so it’s not perfect. Wearing a mask basically costs nothing, IMO, unless you’re a very specific case where it’s harmful.
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
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  - ok_dad 2y ago
    The ice cream analogy was stupid, that’s what I think. Ice cream isn’t a virus, it’s not even the same stakes! Do 1/100 to 1/250 people die from new ice cream varieties?
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      Eating ice cream is an analogy for wearing a mask, not the virus. It is something that isn't a big deal, and that I would normally enjoy doing. I guess you didnt get it
      - ok_dad 2y ago
        Fair enough, everyone can’t agree on everything or communicate with each other effectively. I am particular about masks because I know several close family members who could only go out during covid when people regularly masked, and when masking wasn’t mandatory again, they couldn’t go out for a while until they came out with some new drugs after a year or so. I am fine with no masking today, but it broke my brain that roughly a quarter of people in other places of the country from here were so livid and angry because they had to be somewhat uncomfortable so that immunocompromized people could have safely shopped for necessities. Not only that, but the aforementioned fact that in places where masking was prevalent there was a decreased death rate.
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        s1artibartfast 2y ago
        That's not what it was about for them at all. Wearing a mask is a minor, even trivial thing.
    - mistermann 2y ago
      > {The ice cream analogy} was stupid, that’s what I think. Replace the token above with mandatory masking, and you have your answer. Unfortunately, if you do not like the answer (perhaps you think it is stupid) your mind may not be able to accept it. Most of reality works this way as far as I can tell.