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That is a blast from the past. MP3tag is older than Web 2.0, Twitter, Facebook and is still actively maintained. https://web.archive.org/web/20010502171211/htt

That is a blast from the past. MP3tag is older than Web 2.0, Twitter, Facebook and is still actively maintained. https://web.archive.org/web/20010502171211/http://www.mp3tag.de/ https://web.archive.org/web/20010502171211/http://www.mp3tag... My workflow back in the day was mainly thrift store CD to AudioGrabber. I still have a few CDs that only exist in high-bitrate MP3 format after losing the physical disk. Lately I've been using MusicBrainz Picard to re-organize all of these ancient rips and then automedia to add parity. I'm still paranoid that Spotify will disappear one day and I'm afraid to lose my older music collection.

qbane 2y ago
I remembered that taking care of metadata of 1000+ mp3 music and syncing them between music players and backing up with CD-RWs were time filler. They still are, but I enjoyed doing so. Digital garden in web 1.0 era I could say.
- epiccoleman 2y ago
  I was so proud of my meticulously tagged mp3 collection, and even took the time to add album art to everything. I always wanted mp3s tagged with the original album they came from, even if they were from a greatest hits CD or something. (Looking back, this wasn't quite the right mindset, as sometimes the versions on a greatest hits CD or similar will be slightly different than the "real" album version, but it was my collection!)
  - kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
    I maintain mine. It's the only way to get guaranteed gapless playback in the modern era.
disposition2 2y ago
If you haven’t already looked in to it, beets might be a solution for you https://beets.io/ https://beets.io/
- res0nat0r 2y ago
  I highly recommend Musicbrainz Picard: https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ It will match against the Musicbrainz database and will acoustically ID your files, so the tags can be completely wrong and it can ID the song from it's sound fingerprint. Just dump folders of albums into the client, it will group and sort things and ID them. It works great.
  - mmastrac 2y ago
    It's a miraculous project. I have something like 300+ albums from 170+ artists and it tooks me only a few days to cleanly retag everything, with about 99% of the albums just working.
  - selvin 2y ago
    Musicbrainz Picard: highly recommended
  - deadbunny 2y ago
    I'll 2nd Picard. Been using it for years (and contributing to musicbrains for years).
  - xvilka 2y ago
    I wish there had been something like MusicBrainz but for movies, they now have BookBrainz[1] so that would have covered most aspects of digital content. [1] https://bookbrainz.org/ https://bookbrainz.org/
  - xvilka 2y ago
    I only wish it wasn't written in Python - writing good GUI apps is way too hard with it, also the lack of static typing makes development of anything beyond simple scripts a potential minefield.
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    > It will match against the Musicbrainz database and will acoustically ID your files, so the tags can be completely wrong and it can ID the song from it's sound fingerprint. For songs that have covers, it will ID the song as any of a number of similar covers. I just tried to use it to tag something from the Grease 2007 revival soundtrack (which, as of this writing, doesn't exist in Musicbrainz), and it happily identified it as the same song from the 1994 revival, which is wrong. This makes me hesitant to use it to identify songs if I don't already know what the identification should be.
pkulak 2y ago
Spotify does this thing for me where, no matter what you do, after an hour or so of listening you find yourself hearing the same 50 or so songs, over and over and over until you go mad. I still pay for it, and use it a bit, but playing my own collection is so much nicer.
- eddd-ddde 2y ago
  I'm a fan of YouTube music's algorithm. I don't even have playlists. I just like songs that I enjoy, and whenever I need music I click something in the homepage and enjoy old and new songs that YouTube thinks I will like.
- cvdub 2y ago
  That’s why I disable all of Spotify’s smart playlist and auto play features. When my playlist/album ends I want to select something new, not be spoon fed whatever everyone else is listening to!
- 9dev 2y ago
  Same for me, I could never understand the hype around their suggestions. Even random playlists like „coffee house music“ (which I exclusively turn on when friends are over) seem to be personalised to me - so much so that they pretty much immediately veer off into heavy rock or other stuff that I may have come across, but that definitely isn’t good as a chill backdrop. And even the much-praised weekly playlist is hit or miss - sometimes it’s weeks with abhorring stuff, then for once I get a good one with two to three songs I actually like.
  - bobsmooth 2y ago
    Spotify has introduced me to many new genres but the algo has gotten worse over time.
  - trallnag 2y ago
    Don't get me started on the weekly playlist. Spotify refuses to accept the fact that I don't speak Ukrainian. Yet a big chunk of the Playlist consists out of Ukrainian music. Probably Spotify is not able to differentiate between Ukrainian and Russian, which I listen to a lot
sandreas 2y ago
My workflow is 1. Buying used and reasonably priced original music CDs 2. Ripping them with EAC[1] and an external LG BH16NS55 to FLAC format (takes 120 seconds per CD - this drive is FAST and ACCURATE) 3. Auto-import the ripped FLACs into my beets.io database via cronjob (which also unifies the metadata automatically in 99% of the cases) 4. Inplace-convert the FLACs to 192kbps mp3 via `beet convert` 5. Archiving the converted perfectly tagged FLACs to Bluray discs, as soon as the archive size hits 25GB 6. Point a self-hosted Navidrome instance and a Windows VM with iTunes to the beets folder 7. Use Substreamer App with Navidrome's smart playlists[2] and "favoriting" on my Android phone / iPhone as well as iTunes syncing my iPod Nano 7 via smart playlists Works absolutely flawless and is less work than I expected. Since I automated everything possible, the only manual thing I need to do is the BUYING, the RIPPING and the Bluray ARCHIVING part. 1: https://pilabor.com/blog/2022/10/audio-cd-ripping-hardware/ https://pilabor.com/blog/2022/10/audio-cd-ripping-hardware/ 2: https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome/issues/1417 https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome/issues/1417
- mmastrac 2y ago
  > 5. Archiving the converted perfectly tagged FLACs to Bluray discs, as soon as the archive size hits 25GB Do you have a rec for any long-life BR discs?
  - sandreas 2y ago
    I use regular Verbatim 25GB disks. Since I keep the original CDs and usually use the Mp3s to listen, this is only a part of my 3-2-1 backup strategy. Nothing meant to be 200 years archival proof :-) However, I never use anything but Verbatim, never had a bad experience with it.
    - accrual 2y ago
      Very cool archival setup! Funny you say that about Verbatim. I have a several old burned discs from the 2000s and 2010s where the dye has degraded and is no longer readable, but I have one specific blue Verbatim disc my childhood friend burned for me in the late 90s, and it still reads today!
jgalt212 2y ago
> automedia to add parity. What do you mean by this?
- callumgare 2y ago
  I’m guessing they’re referring to this: https://github.com/mmastrac/automedia https://github.com/mmastrac/automedia
komali2 2y ago
I love MusicBrainz Picard but the UI doesn't seem to allow me to mass-manage my TB collection of music. Just crashes after trying to load it all into RAM for 20 minutes or something. I'm sure there's a CLI or something that can accomplish what I'm trying to do though.
- herewulf 2y ago
  Try beets[1]. It's likely the CLI answer you're looking for. [1]: https://beets.io https://beets.io
autoexec 2y ago
> Lately I've been using MusicBrainz Picard to re-organize all of these ancient rips and then automedia to add parity. I'm still paranoid that Spotify will disappear one day Spotify doesn't even have to disappear, it just has to lose access to the songs you care about or raise their prices to the point where they are unfair, or degrade their service in other ways until it's not worth using. Personally, I'm paranoid about using internet based services to fetch metadata for my local media collection. I imagine their servers log those requests, each filename, the metadata pulled, IPs, and timestamps, and that they keep that data around for at least some length of time. Not sure how many sell that data, but what I'm listening to isn't really anyone else's business and I don't want the RIAA or anyone else to use that information as evidence against me somehow or coming around asking for proof of purchase for every MP3 they got from those logs.
squarefoot 2y ago
> I'm still paranoid that Spotify will disappear one day and I'm afraid to lose my older music collection. Services eventually disappear. Not many people recall about Vitaminic, a gem of the early 2K that along MySpace gave countless unknown artists and bands the opportunity to put their music online, then one day poof! and it was gone with all its content. I had saved a few quite interesting tracks on my hard drive and attempted to search for the artists in the hope they moved elsewhere, but no way: they were gone forever. So, screw online services: I'm not going to waste any energy in something whose kill switch is in someone else's hand.
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  If the artists didn't own their own copyrights, there's a good chance that their stuff is available somewhere else by now. There are many companies out there that do nothing but put your music onto spotify and youtube for exposure; anything owned by a label is probably there.
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salynchnew 2y ago
Fun fact is that I have at least one CD where there was an audio track misprint (one track repeated). I didn't actually notice until I ripped it and used Picard to analyze the tracks. I also once found two tracks where Spotify's own data was wrong (wrong audio files associated with the album/track names). After failing in my attempts to escalate it through Spotify support several times, I ended up having to reach out to Glenn MacDonald on Twitter to get it fixed.

qbane 2y ago

I remembered that taking care of metadata of 1000+ mp3 music and syncing them between music players and backing up with CD-RWs were time filler. They still are, but I enjoyed doing so. Digital garden in web 1.0 era I could say.

epiccoleman 2y ago
I was so proud of my meticulously tagged mp3 collection, and even took the time to add album art to everything. I always wanted mp3s tagged with the original album they came from, even if they were from a greatest hits CD or something. (Looking back, this wasn't quite the right mindset, as sometimes the versions on a greatest hits CD or similar will be slightly different than the "real" album version, but it was my collection!)
- kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
  I maintain mine. It's the only way to get guaranteed gapless playback in the modern era.

disposition2 2y ago

If you haven’t already looked in to it, beets might be a solution for you https://beets.io/ https://beets.io/

res0nat0r 2y ago
I highly recommend Musicbrainz Picard: https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ https://picard.musicbrainz.org/ It will match against the Musicbrainz database and will acoustically ID your files, so the tags can be completely wrong and it can ID the song from it's sound fingerprint. Just dump folders of albums into the client, it will group and sort things and ID them. It works great.
- mmastrac 2y ago
  It's a miraculous project. I have something like 300+ albums from 170+ artists and it tooks me only a few days to cleanly retag everything, with about 99% of the albums just working.
- selvin 2y ago
  Musicbrainz Picard: highly recommended
- deadbunny 2y ago
  I'll 2nd Picard. Been using it for years (and contributing to musicbrains for years).
- xvilka 2y ago
  I wish there had been something like MusicBrainz but for movies, they now have BookBrainz[1] so that would have covered most aspects of digital content. [1] https://bookbrainz.org/ https://bookbrainz.org/
- xvilka 2y ago
  I only wish it wasn't written in Python - writing good GUI apps is way too hard with it, also the lack of static typing makes development of anything beyond simple scripts a potential minefield.
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  > It will match against the Musicbrainz database and will acoustically ID your files, so the tags can be completely wrong and it can ID the song from it's sound fingerprint. For songs that have covers, it will ID the song as any of a number of similar covers. I just tried to use it to tag something from the Grease 2007 revival soundtrack (which, as of this writing, doesn't exist in Musicbrainz), and it happily identified it as the same song from the 1994 revival, which is wrong. This makes me hesitant to use it to identify songs if I don't already know what the identification should be.

pkulak 2y ago

Spotify does this thing for me where, no matter what you do, after an hour or so of listening you find yourself hearing the same 50 or so songs, over and over and over until you go mad. I still pay for it, and use it a bit, but playing my own collection is so much nicer.

eddd-ddde 2y ago
I'm a fan of YouTube music's algorithm. I don't even have playlists. I just like songs that I enjoy, and whenever I need music I click something in the homepage and enjoy old and new songs that YouTube thinks I will like.
cvdub 2y ago
That’s why I disable all of Spotify’s smart playlist and auto play features. When my playlist/album ends I want to select something new, not be spoon fed whatever everyone else is listening to!
9dev 2y ago
Same for me, I could never understand the hype around their suggestions. Even random playlists like „coffee house music“ (which I exclusively turn on when friends are over) seem to be personalised to me - so much so that they pretty much immediately veer off into heavy rock or other stuff that I may have come across, but that definitely isn’t good as a chill backdrop. And even the much-praised weekly playlist is hit or miss - sometimes it’s weeks with abhorring stuff, then for once I get a good one with two to three songs I actually like.
- bobsmooth 2y ago
  Spotify has introduced me to many new genres but the algo has gotten worse over time.
- trallnag 2y ago
  Don't get me started on the weekly playlist. Spotify refuses to accept the fact that I don't speak Ukrainian. Yet a big chunk of the Playlist consists out of Ukrainian music. Probably Spotify is not able to differentiate between Ukrainian and Russian, which I listen to a lot

sandreas 2y ago

My workflow is 1. Buying used and reasonably priced original music CDs 2. Ripping them with EAC[1] and an external LG BH16NS55 to FLAC format (takes 120 seconds per CD - this drive is FAST and ACCURATE) 3. Auto-import the ripped FLACs into my beets.io database via cronjob (which also unifies the metadata automatically in 99% of the cases) 4. Inplace-convert the FLACs to 192kbps mp3 via `beet convert` 5. Archiving the converted perfectly tagged FLACs to Bluray discs, as soon as the archive size hits 25GB 6. Point a self-hosted Navidrome instance and a Windows VM with iTunes to the beets folder 7. Use Substreamer App with Navidrome's smart playlists[2] and "favoriting" on my Android phone / iPhone as well as iTunes syncing my iPod Nano 7 via smart playlists Works absolutely flawless and is less work than I expected. Since I automated everything possible, the only manual thing I need to do is the BUYING, the RIPPING and the Bluray ARCHIVING part. 1: https://pilabor.com/blog/2022/10/audio-cd-ripping-hardware/ https://pilabor.com/blog/2022/10/audio-cd-ripping-hardware/ 2: https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome/issues/1417 https://github.com/navidrome/navidrome/issues/1417

mmastrac 2y ago
> 5. Archiving the converted perfectly tagged FLACs to Bluray discs, as soon as the archive size hits 25GB Do you have a rec for any long-life BR discs?
- sandreas 2y ago
  I use regular Verbatim 25GB disks. Since I keep the original CDs and usually use the Mp3s to listen, this is only a part of my 3-2-1 backup strategy. Nothing meant to be 200 years archival proof :-) However, I never use anything but Verbatim, never had a bad experience with it.
  - accrual 2y ago
    Very cool archival setup! Funny you say that about Verbatim. I have a several old burned discs from the 2000s and 2010s where the dye has degraded and is no longer readable, but I have one specific blue Verbatim disc my childhood friend burned for me in the late 90s, and it still reads today!

jgalt212 2y ago

> automedia to add parity. What do you mean by this?

callumgare 2y ago
I’m guessing they’re referring to this: https://github.com/mmastrac/automedia https://github.com/mmastrac/automedia

komali2 2y ago

I love MusicBrainz Picard but the UI doesn't seem to allow me to mass-manage my TB collection of music. Just crashes after trying to load it all into RAM for 20 minutes or something. I'm sure there's a CLI or something that can accomplish what I'm trying to do though.

herewulf 2y ago
Try beets[1]. It's likely the CLI answer you're looking for. [1]: https://beets.io https://beets.io

autoexec 2y ago

> Lately I've been using MusicBrainz Picard to re-organize all of these ancient rips and then automedia to add parity. I'm still paranoid that Spotify will disappear one day Spotify doesn't even have to disappear, it just has to lose access to the songs you care about or raise their prices to the point where they are unfair, or degrade their service in other ways until it's not worth using. Personally, I'm paranoid about using internet based services to fetch metadata for my local media collection. I imagine their servers log those requests, each filename, the metadata pulled, IPs, and timestamps, and that they keep that data around for at least some length of time. Not sure how many sell that data, but what I'm listening to isn't really anyone else's business and I don't want the RIAA or anyone else to use that information as evidence against me somehow or coming around asking for proof of purchase for every MP3 they got from those logs.

squarefoot 2y ago

> I'm still paranoid that Spotify will disappear one day and I'm afraid to lose my older music collection. Services eventually disappear. Not many people recall about Vitaminic, a gem of the early 2K that along MySpace gave countless unknown artists and bands the opportunity to put their music online, then one day poof! and it was gone with all its content. I had saved a few quite interesting tracks on my hard drive and attempted to search for the artists in the hope they moved elsewhere, but no way: they were gone forever. So, screw online services: I'm not going to waste any energy in something whose kill switch is in someone else's hand.

thaumasiotes 2y ago
If the artists didn't own their own copyrights, there's a good chance that their stuff is available somewhere else by now. There are many companies out there that do nothing but put your music onto spotify and youtube for exposure; anything owned by a label is probably there.

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salynchnew 2y ago

Fun fact is that I have at least one CD where there was an audio track misprint (one track repeated). I didn't actually notice until I ripped it and used Picard to analyze the tracks. I also once found two tracks where Spotify's own data was wrong (wrong audio files associated with the album/track names). After failing in my attempts to escalate it through Spotify support several times, I ended up having to reach out to Glenn MacDonald on Twitter to get it fixed.