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Yeah go ahead and explain how learning Mandarin teaches you about Quantum Mechanics or how learning Music Theory helps you bake cakes. Cute idea that falls apar

Yeah go ahead and explain how learning Mandarin teaches you about Quantum Mechanics or how learning Music Theory helps you bake cakes. Cute idea that falls apart under casual inspection.

082349872349872 2y ago
Music Theory and cake baking are both all about strict proportion. (and therefore the pythagorean comma would be the equivalent to how few sigfigs we need to keep when converting recipes in freedom units to g and kg?)
- humansareok1 2y ago
  You are confused, you are learning arithmetic to help you understand recipes. Knowing that water plus yeast plus flour in a certain proportion = bread does not teach you how to compose music and vice versa.
TeMPOraL 2y ago
Explain how to learn Mandarin in a way that avoids being exposed to, and learning from, texts that indirectly teach about QM.
- humansareok1 2y ago
  I'm sorry but have you ever learned a language? It what universe do you need to read a text about QM to learn spanish??
javier123454321 2y ago
Music theory deals with the harmonic series, which studies the motion of sound waves [1]. Sound waves are physical, and are affected by the matter and density of the particles they are traveling in. To understand it deeply, you need to get into the behavior of solids and gases, which is chemistry, something useful to baking. Similarly from Mandarin to Quantum Mechanics you can take Mandarin -> linguistics -> Probability Theory[2] -> Quantum Probability -> Quantum Mechanics 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) 2. https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1100760108 https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1100760108
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  More directly, here's superposition (as opposed to classical pure states) in hanzi: https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=64175 https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=64175 [If Google's xlation can be believed, note that syntactically the 3rd and 5th columns repeat in: 吾生也有涯而知也无涯 yet semantically they group differently between the lines: 吾生/也有/涯而/知也/无涯 compare resonance in aromatics]
- humansareok1 2y ago
  This strains credulity. You do not by osmosis learn how to solve the wave equations or manipulate them by playing the Tuba. What you are doing is connecting related fields however tangential they may be and implying that learning about one makes you learn about the others which is just not true. Let's take a Music Theory student and give them a series of problems from Landau and Lifshitz, how well do you think they will do?
  - javier123454321 2y ago
    I think that i'm illustrating the point of the author. That every field is connected with every other field. If you start getting into the harmonic series as a music theory nerd, you will be aided by studying physics and chemistry. Maybe your average music student wouldn't but John Coltrane certainly did draw these types of connections.

Yeah go ahead and explain how learning Mandarin teaches you about Quantum Mechanics or how learning Music Theory helps you bake cakes. Cute idea that falls apart under casual inspection.

082349872349872 2y ago

Music Theory and cake baking are both all about strict proportion. (and therefore the pythagorean comma would be the equivalent to how few sigfigs we need to keep when converting recipes in freedom units to g and kg?)

humansareok1 2y ago
You are confused, you are learning arithmetic to help you understand recipes. Knowing that water plus yeast plus flour in a certain proportion = bread does not teach you how to compose music and vice versa.

TeMPOraL 2y ago

Explain how to learn Mandarin in a way that avoids being exposed to, and learning from, texts that indirectly teach about QM.

humansareok1 2y ago
I'm sorry but have you ever learned a language? It what universe do you need to read a text about QM to learn spanish??

javier123454321 2y ago

Music theory deals with the harmonic series, which studies the motion of sound waves [1]. Sound waves are physical, and are affected by the matter and density of the particles they are traveling in. To understand it deeply, you need to get into the behavior of solids and gases, which is chemistry, something useful to baking. Similarly from Mandarin to Quantum Mechanics you can take Mandarin -> linguistics -> Probability Theory[2] -> Quantum Probability -> Quantum Mechanics 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) 2. https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1100760108 https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1100760108

082349872349872 2y ago
More directly, here's superposition (as opposed to classical pure states) in hanzi: https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=64175 https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=64175 [If Google's xlation can be believed, note that syntactically the 3rd and 5th columns repeat in: 吾生也有涯而知也无涯 yet semantically they group differently between the lines: 吾生/也有/涯而/知也/无涯 compare resonance in aromatics]
humansareok1 2y ago
This strains credulity. You do not by osmosis learn how to solve the wave equations or manipulate them by playing the Tuba. What you are doing is connecting related fields however tangential they may be and implying that learning about one makes you learn about the others which is just not true. Let's take a Music Theory student and give them a series of problems from Landau and Lifshitz, how well do you think they will do?
- javier123454321 2y ago
  I think that i'm illustrating the point of the author. That every field is connected with every other field. If you start getting into the harmonic series as a music theory nerd, you will be aided by studying physics and chemistry. Maybe your average music student wouldn't but John Coltrane certainly did draw these types of connections.