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LOL, you wanna try it on my ~2 generations old Core i5 corporate laptop. Sometimes, the first steps of drawing the calendar view are roughly the same speed as

by mft_ 2y ago

LOL, you wanna try it on my ~2 generations old Core i5 corporate laptop. Sometimes, the first steps of drawing the calendar view are roughly the same speed as me drawing it in Paint. Maybe someone should normalise giving developers crappy laptops to develop on. (Has anyone done a deep dive into Teams to explain what on earth is going on? I mean, if VSCode can be fast despite its underlying architecture, surely something could be done about Teams?)

pmontra 2y ago
Do companies using Teams have a choice of using something else or are their C*Os and IT departments married with Microsoft? If the latter, they'll use whatever Microsoft throws at them, even if it doesn't work.
- deergomoo 2y ago
  Teams' USP is that it's part of the suite corporations are almost universally already paying for.
phkahler 2y ago
>> Maybe someone should normalise giving developers crappy laptops to develop on. Then the developers will complain the hardware is unusable to do their job even though that this was a supercomputer back in the day. Then you say "No, it's the software please fix it."
- zsims 2y ago
  The problem is, it's not their software. No control over Slack, Outlook etc
intelVISA 2y ago
Weird, a statically built ELF that supports TLS1.3 + HTTP1.1 is like ~30kb, all you need is Emacs as a UI and you have Teams 2 at 1.0e-5% resource usage.
deergomoo 2y ago
Yup, my work machine has an older i7 (2021-era maybe?) with 32GB RAM and between Teams, Slack, "new" Outlook, Jira, WSL, driving a 4K display off the piddly integrated GPU, and a VPN that involves every packet doing a transatlantic roundtrip whenever I want to connect to an internal service, everything is just dog slow. And the fan noise—my god the fan noise. Some days it makes me extra motivated to make the code I write fast and efficient; other days I want to give up entirely.
lynguist 2y ago
This actually I don’t get and don’t stand behind. Would you give a professional smith a low quality hammer? Would you give a chef a blunt knife? Why do corporations give out garbage hardware to their smiths and chefs (+ enforce their use via policy) ?

by mft_ 2y ago

pmontra 2y ago

Do companies using Teams have a choice of using something else or are their C*Os and IT departments married with Microsoft? If the latter, they'll use whatever Microsoft throws at them, even if it doesn't work.

deergomoo 2y ago
Teams' USP is that it's part of the suite corporations are almost universally already paying for.

phkahler 2y ago

>> Maybe someone should normalise giving developers crappy laptops to develop on. Then the developers will complain the hardware is unusable to do their job even though that this was a supercomputer back in the day. Then you say "No, it's the software please fix it."

zsims 2y ago
The problem is, it's not their software. No control over Slack, Outlook etc

intelVISA 2y ago

Weird, a statically built ELF that supports TLS1.3 + HTTP1.1 is like ~30kb, all you need is Emacs as a UI and you have Teams 2 at 1.0e-5% resource usage.

deergomoo 2y ago

Yup, my work machine has an older i7 (2021-era maybe?) with 32GB RAM and between Teams, Slack, "new" Outlook, Jira, WSL, driving a 4K display off the piddly integrated GPU, and a VPN that involves every packet doing a transatlantic roundtrip whenever I want to connect to an internal service, everything is just dog slow. And the fan noise—my god the fan noise. Some days it makes me extra motivated to make the code I write fast and efficient; other days I want to give up entirely.

lynguist 2y ago

This actually I don’t get and don’t stand behind. Would you give a professional smith a low quality hammer? Would you give a chef a blunt knife? Why do corporations give out garbage hardware to their smiths and chefs (+ enforce their use via policy) ?