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What are the numbers if you compare Germany to California, including people moving in from other states of the US? Remember that EU has a free flow of work for

What are the numbers if you compare Germany to California, including people moving in from other states of the US? Remember that EU has a free flow of work force, so I expect lots of those 18% will come from Netherlands or France. In Sweden at least, immigration was always biggest from neighboring countries (e.g. Finland/Norway)

biztos 2y ago
In Germany when one talks about “migration background” one is not talking about fellow EU citizens, nor about immigrants from the US, Australia, etc. But if you take the broader, official definition then you get something like 30% apparently: https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/zahlen-und-fakten/soziale-situation-in-deutschland/61646/bevoelkerung-mit-migrationshintergrund/ https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/zahlen-und-fakten/soziale-situ...
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reisse 2y ago
> Remember that EU has a free flow of work force, so I expect lots of those 18% will come from Netherlands or France. What's the point for the native citizen of Netherlands or France in moving to Germany? The quality of life and salaries are similar, but the culture context is just so different between these countries. Completely different languages, different customs, etc. The numbers surely confirm that - the France is in the bottom of the list, and Netherlands are not even included. [1] Anyway, out of ~14 million foreigners in Germany only 5 million are from other EU states, and most of them (~3 million) are from Eastern European countries (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia and Hungary). > In Sweden at least, immigration was always biggest from neighboring countries (e.g. Finland/Norway) There are less cultural differences between Sweden, Finland and Norway. At least they have more or less similar languages (ok, Finnish is different, but Sweden is also an official language in Finland). 1. https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Society-Environment/Population/Migration-Integration/Tables/foreigner-place-of-birth.html https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Society-Environment/Popula...
- fifilura 2y ago
  Right. It also highlights the extreme situation we have with Russias brutal and illegal invasion of Ukraine. Ukraine (oustide EU sofar) is number two on the list afger Turkey and also Russia is pretty far up.

biztos 2y ago

In Germany when one talks about “migration background” one is not talking about fellow EU citizens, nor about immigrants from the US, Australia, etc. But if you take the broader, official definition then you get something like 30% apparently: https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/zahlen-und-fakten/soziale-situation-in-deutschland/61646/bevoelkerung-mit-migrationshintergrund/ https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/zahlen-und-fakten/soziale-situ...

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reisse 2y ago

> Remember that EU has a free flow of work force, so I expect lots of those 18% will come from Netherlands or France. What's the point for the native citizen of Netherlands or France in moving to Germany? The quality of life and salaries are similar, but the culture context is just so different between these countries. Completely different languages, different customs, etc. The numbers surely confirm that - the France is in the bottom of the list, and Netherlands are not even included. [1] Anyway, out of ~14 million foreigners in Germany only 5 million are from other EU states, and most of them (~3 million) are from Eastern European countries (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia and Hungary). > In Sweden at least, immigration was always biggest from neighboring countries (e.g. Finland/Norway) There are less cultural differences between Sweden, Finland and Norway. At least they have more or less similar languages (ok, Finnish is different, but Sweden is also an official language in Finland). 1. https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Society-Environment/Population/Migration-Integration/Tables/foreigner-place-of-birth.html https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Society-Environment/Popula...

fifilura 2y ago
Right. It also highlights the extreme situation we have with Russias brutal and illegal invasion of Ukraine. Ukraine (oustide EU sofar) is number two on the list afger Turkey and also Russia is pretty far up.