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It's a stupid take. The onboard computer on my ev is the same system as on non ev fords

menaerus 2y ago
You're right, there's more to it. For instance, Tesla S with 75 kWh battery pack has the autonomy of, optimistically saying, ~400 km and the battery pack alone weighs 530 kg (!). This range is I think already within a 90th percentile for the EV cars currently on the market. Now contrast that with basically any non-EV car whose tank capacity in average is 50-55 litres which is 10x less weight than the battery pack of the EV car. With pessimistic consumption of 7l per 100km you will have almost double the range of the 90th percentile EV vehicle or ~700 km. You will have none of the attached risks of the battery management (catching fire, deteriorating the capacity, replacing the pack in a few years) and you can top your fuel within minutes and literally anywhere.
- Delmololo 2y ago
  You posted probably to the wrong comment. I talked about that person who is afraid of ev being a 'smartphone'
  - menaerus 2y ago
    Sort of but not really since EVs with their battery management are not far from being a smartphone.
    - Delmololo 2y ago
      Ah I get it. First of my assumption is that solid state will win out. No burning (it's already not really an issue, millions of evs are driving around), fast charging also in winter, cheaper. A ev is only an electric engine (closed off) and a battery also closed off.
- thebruce87m 2y ago
  > catching fire, deteriorating the capacity, replacing the pack in a few years and you can top your fuel within minutes and literally anywhere The media have done a great job at convincing people of these myths. * EVs are much less likely to catch fire than ICE cars: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/how-much-fire-risk-are-electric-vehicles https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/how-much-fi... * Deteriorating capacity and replacing the battery after a few years? Most batteries have long warranties. 8 years is standard here. If we look at NMC batteries lasting 1,000 cycles then that would be 400,000 km in your example. LFP is 2 - 3x this. * Filling up in a few minutes? I don’t miss that at all. I charge at home. Time spent: 0 minutes.

You're right, there's more to it. For instance, Tesla S with 75 kWh battery pack has the autonomy of, optimistically saying, ~400 km and the battery pack alone weighs 530 kg (!). This range is I think already within a 90th percentile for the EV cars currently on the market. Now contrast that with basically any non-EV car whose tank capacity in average is 50-55 litres which is 10x less weight than the battery pack of the EV car. With pessimistic consumption of 7l per 100km you will have almost double the range of the 90th percentile EV vehicle or ~700 km. You will have none of the attached risks of the battery management (catching fire, deteriorating the capacity, replacing the pack in a few years) and you can top your fuel within minutes and literally anywhere.

Delmololo 2y ago
You posted probably to the wrong comment. I talked about that person who is afraid of ev being a 'smartphone'
- menaerus 2y ago
  Sort of but not really since EVs with their battery management are not far from being a smartphone.
  - Delmololo 2y ago
    Ah I get it. First of my assumption is that solid state will win out. No burning (it's already not really an issue, millions of evs are driving around), fast charging also in winter, cheaper. A ev is only an electric engine (closed off) and a battery also closed off.
thebruce87m 2y ago
> catching fire, deteriorating the capacity, replacing the pack in a few years and you can top your fuel within minutes and literally anywhere The media have done a great job at convincing people of these myths. * EVs are much less likely to catch fire than ICE cars: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/how-much-fire-risk-are-electric-vehicles https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/electric-cars/how-much-fi... * Deteriorating capacity and replacing the battery after a few years? Most batteries have long warranties. 8 years is standard here. If we look at NMC batteries lasting 1,000 cycles then that would be 400,000 km in your example. LFP is 2 - 3x this. * Filling up in a few minutes? I don’t miss that at all. I charge at home. Time spent: 0 minutes.