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Does this mean they crossed the atlantic first? Sometimes I wonder if the official Columbus crossed it first story is valid. #NotAConspiracyTheorist

mhd 14y ago
Huh? Part of one tribe of Mexian Indians has a common Jewish ancestor. Which indicated that once, quite a while ago, someone of Ashkenazi origin had sex over there. Nothing more. And considering the expulsion edict after the Spanish reunification (1492, a bit before Columbus first journey), there was a lot of traveling going on, too. This isn't exactly groundbreaking research. Doesn't indicate a new "Elijah the Viking", doesn't justify any golden tablets.
- dalke 14y ago
  I'm a bit shaky about my history, but I thought that conversos (Jews who converted to Christianity rather than be expelled) were prohibited from going to the New World. Their grandchildren were allowed, but always viewed with suspicion. According to http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/677-jews-in-mexico-a-struggle-for-survival-part-1 http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/677-jews-in-mexico-a-stru..., "The inquisition had not yet come to Nueva Espagna and the new arrivals soon married into prominent Mexican families, became priests and bishops and enjoyed a 40 year period during which time, many began to practice Judaism openly. ... By 1571 the Inquisition had arrived in the New World and again both practicing Jews and Conversos were under religious threat." So it looks like conversos were able to migrate (at least early on), some, once the pressure of the Inquisition was removed, returned to their original faith, but a few decades later all that was banned. In any case, and to emphasize mho's comment, this only indicates that "someone of Ashkenazi origin had sex over there." That person could easily have been a practicing Catholic, and not a Jew.

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Does this mean they crossed the atlantic first? Sometimes I wonder if the official Columbus crossed it first story is valid. #NotAConspiracyTheorist

by factorialboy 14y ago

mhd 14y ago
Huh? Part of one tribe of Mexian Indians has a common Jewish ancestor. Which indicated that once, quite a while ago, someone of Ashkenazi origin had sex over there. Nothing more. And considering the expulsion edict after the Spanish reunification (1492, a bit before Columbus first journey), there was a lot of traveling going on, too. This isn't exactly groundbreaking research. Doesn't indicate a new "Elijah the Viking", doesn't justify any golden tablets.
- dalke 14y ago
  I'm a bit shaky about my history, but I thought that conversos (Jews who converted to Christianity rather than be expelled) were prohibited from going to the New World. Their grandchildren were allowed, but always viewed with suspicion. According to http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/677-jews-in-mexico-a-struggle-for-survival-part-1 http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/677-jews-in-mexico-a-stru..., "The inquisition had not yet come to Nueva Espagna and the new arrivals soon married into prominent Mexican families, became priests and bishops and enjoyed a 40 year period during which time, many began to practice Judaism openly. ... By 1571 the Inquisition had arrived in the New World and again both practicing Jews and Conversos were under religious threat." So it looks like conversos were able to migrate (at least early on), some, once the pressure of the Inquisition was removed, returned to their original faith, but a few decades later all that was banned. In any case, and to emphasize mho's comment, this only indicates that "someone of Ashkenazi origin had sex over there." That person could easily have been a practicing Catholic, and not a Jew.