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> We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. We focused on solving the tradeoffs RLCDs traditionally have - around reflectance %, metall
by mushufasa 2y ago
> We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. We focused on solving the tradeoffs RLCDs traditionally have - around reflectance %, metallic-look / not Paperlike enough, viewing angle, white state, rainbow mura, parallax, resolution, size, lack of quality backlight, etc.
Would you license this to others at a more affordable rate than e-ink? Lenovo has some e-ink 2-in-1 "thinkbook" laptops and might be a good partner... I'm sure you're considered this already.
Personally I am sold on the 'low distraction and eye strain' of e-ink, and would be keen on buying a computer with that display. That said, I'm more interested in a general computer running a general operating system (ubuntu or any linux) if I'm using something for daily work. Even if your own operating system can do these things I would be concerned with edge-cases for software I need for work, so for professional daily usage I need an OS that is battle-tested, and not based on a locked-down sandboxed mobile system like android where I'd have to fight the OS to do what I want.
I do own and use a remarkable, so I'm probably in the target market. I only use the remarkable for note taking, it's handy for freehand sketching visual ideas or concepts digitally, where typing or any sort of computer drawing with a mouse may add friction that gets in the way of getting the ideas down onto paper. The main advantage over paper is so I don't need to worry about misplacing the pieces of draft paper afterwards, when I revisit an idea months later.
I definitely don't want a tablet for typing code. If I'm going to carry around an external keyboard, I might as well just get a thin-and-light laptop.
I almost bought the aforementioned thinkbook with the e-ink display. Main reason I didn't was that I was worried about compatibility issues if I ran linux, since it's designed for windows.
- yencabulator 2y agoI bet people would pay good money for a Framework display module that's usable eInk. (Assuming it can use the same display connector.) https://frame.work/products/display-kit?v=FRANGX0001 https://frame.work/products/display-kit?v=FRANGX0001 https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Display+Replacement+Guide/86?lang=en https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Display+Replacement+Guide/86...
- CarVac 2y agoI would buy one.
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- michaljanocko 2y agoI'd sell my kidney for that.
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- eblanshey 2y agoI'd buy a framework laptop just for that.
- roughly 2y agoOh my god I would buy this in a heartbeat (specifically the RLCD display - I've used enough kindle-style e-ink displays to find them basically unusable for anything I'm intending to actually interact with).
- luyu_wu 2y agoWenting Zhang made a proof of concept for this, it's somewhere on his Twitter, Youtuhe, or Github :) Definetly would be amazing to have for the Framework.
- RossBencina 2y agoSeems like they'll be shipping dev kits on crowd supply soon. Was posted on HN last week: Glider – open-source eInk monitor with an emphasis on low latency https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40358309 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40358309
- surteen 2y agohttps://x.com/zephray_wenting/status/1535041457035280392 https://x.com/zephray_wenting/status/1535041457035280392
- LotusEater59 2y ago[dead]
- teleforce 2y agoYes 2-in-1 is very interesting and useful device, the latest one version has color e-ink [1]. For non-color e-ink sporting 60fps display in low-cost laptop with Intel entry level N100 CPU would be awesome as working and learning gadgets, and batteries should last days instead of hours. [1] Meet the Lenovo ThinkBook Plus Twist https://youtu.be/ZBV_VGsVqqE https://youtu.be/ZBV_VGsVqqE
- KennyBlanken 2y agoThey are just using displays made by eInk. Technically, Linfiny Japan Inc., which is a subsidiary that does B2B stuff like large displays. Several companies are offering similar fast refresh tech. It's no longer anything super special.
- jodrellblank 2y ago"We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. ... Note: it’s 60fps epaper, not off the shelf Eink" Why do you claim it's off the shelf eInk when they explicitly say it isn't?
- DrNosferatu 2y agoThis. Lenovo never quite managed to get their act together with the e-paper side of their 2-in-1. - Maybe this is what's missing? - ...maybe you could do you own 2-in-1?