4 ms·

I don't think the issue is lack of trust in iTerm2, it's lack of trust in the corporations who operate the AI services and have very strong (profit) incentives

I don't think the issue is lack of trust in iTerm2, it's lack of trust in the corporations who operate the AI services and have very strong (profit) incentives to abuse and/or exploit all data they can collect by any means necessary. The technology isn't the problem; It's the meatbags weaponizing it in the name of a quick buck who are the problem. Before this recent flare-up in pro/anti-AI tribalism, I have not regularly been demanded to justify my distrust of a corporation. Suddenly I feel I am demanded to justify my lack of faith in corporations who happen to have some involvement in AI. I shouldn't have to say anything beyond simply gesticulating vaguely in the direction of end-stage capitalism; The problems should be readily apparent.

ThrowawayTestr 2y ago
>it's lack of trust in the corporations who operate the AI services Then don't use the feature?
- Suzuran 2y ago
  You missed my point, or I failed to adequately explain it; Please see my response to the comment above yours.
soraminazuki 2y ago
No, people are saying, don't use the feature if you're not interested. It isn't hard. Don't input an API key. Don't do multiple clicks to show the "Codecierge" toolbox. Don't type in a question for the AI. In future versions, don't install the optional AI plugin. And crucially, don't act the way people did in this saga and be civil. Follow any of that, and you're fine. People aren't demanding you anything. You are.
- Suzuran 2y ago
  You missed the point, or I failed to adequately explain it. I know full well (now, without the intentional disinformation that was being spread earlier) that the feature is entirely disabled without an API key present. I understand that, as things stand right now, the decision of whether or not to engage with OpenAI through iTerm2 is entirely mine. My point is that I believe the reason people are still repulsed by it to such a high degree is not because they all have some irrational deep-seated hatred of the AI technology, but that they are repulsed by the idea of even accidentally engaging with the OpenAI corporation (who just announced a partnership with News Corp of all things...); They are terrified of some situation in the future where someone comes along with code or packet traces and says "Hey, look at this, OpenAI has all your data anyway, and there's nothing you can do about it but seethe and cope; sucks to be you!"
  - notatoad 2y ago
    >but that they are repulsed by the idea of even accidentally engaging with the OpenAI corporation and this is not a reasonable complaint, or a justifiable reason to demand the removal of features. if you have an emotional reaction to the existence of openAI, that's an issue for you to address yourself, not a reason to demand that other people make changes to free apps you've decided use.
  - adamomada 2y ago
    Lol ignorance is now intentional disinformation

ThrowawayTestr 2y ago

>it's lack of trust in the corporations who operate the AI services Then don't use the feature?

Suzuran 2y ago
You missed my point, or I failed to adequately explain it; Please see my response to the comment above yours.

soraminazuki 2y ago

No, people are saying, don't use the feature if you're not interested. It isn't hard. Don't input an API key. Don't do multiple clicks to show the "Codecierge" toolbox. Don't type in a question for the AI. In future versions, don't install the optional AI plugin. And crucially, don't act the way people did in this saga and be civil. Follow any of that, and you're fine. People aren't demanding you anything. You are.

Suzuran 2y ago
You missed the point, or I failed to adequately explain it. I know full well (now, without the intentional disinformation that was being spread earlier) that the feature is entirely disabled without an API key present. I understand that, as things stand right now, the decision of whether or not to engage with OpenAI through iTerm2 is entirely mine. My point is that I believe the reason people are still repulsed by it to such a high degree is not because they all have some irrational deep-seated hatred of the AI technology, but that they are repulsed by the idea of even accidentally engaging with the OpenAI corporation (who just announced a partnership with News Corp of all things...); They are terrified of some situation in the future where someone comes along with code or packet traces and says "Hey, look at this, OpenAI has all your data anyway, and there's nothing you can do about it but seethe and cope; sucks to be you!"
- notatoad 2y ago
  >but that they are repulsed by the idea of even accidentally engaging with the OpenAI corporation and this is not a reasonable complaint, or a justifiable reason to demand the removal of features. if you have an emotional reaction to the existence of openAI, that's an issue for you to address yourself, not a reason to demand that other people make changes to free apps you've decided use.
- adamomada 2y ago
  Lol ignorance is now intentional disinformation