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Can I run my own software on it? I would love to buy an epaper portable of some sort, but the fact that they're all locked down is a no go. One day I'll live my

Can I run my own software on it? I would love to buy an epaper portable of some sort, but the fact that they're all locked down is a no go. One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove.

boochiboo12 2y ago
yup yes, we will release a bootloader unlock tool so you can do whatever you want
- dugite-code 2y ago
  If you really do this it would be a fantastic incentive for me. Just knowing the community can tinker makes a product feel more my own rather than "rented" like some systems out there.
- evanphx 2y ago
  Upon hearing this (and seeing the software that you've got listed on the website) I went and bought one. Looks great!
- thot_experiment 2y ago
  I would sign up for a mailing list for when this is available, I will probably actually buy one if it's android with root.
- pcdoodle 2y ago
  This will be a "killer feature" for the crowd here for many reasons. This product would also make for a classy home automation tablet.
- ddingus 2y ago
  THANK YOU! There is so much hardware out there people could be hacking on, improving, repressing all wasted due to difficulty loading new code. A coworker was given a SONY e-ink device. We quite like it, but the included firmware is limited and dependent on a windows app that leaves a lot to be desired. This is early hardware that was given the SONY treatment. That means great enclosure and ergonomics, but also conservative use of the display and goofy proprietary interfaces. Would not take much to make the device a lot more useful. One day, we will circle around and be talking about these already solid devices and how in-demand they remain despite their age because of your great decision. Sidebar: I really want one, but am price constrained at the moment. (Too bad, so sad for me!) Will the production models see an equally open configuration? Hope so. Thanks again.
- lambdaxyzw 2y ago
  Just pitching in to say this is also very important to me.
- barnabee 2y ago
  This got you another order
- Zuiii 2y ago
  okay, now I'm very interested.
- rebeccaskinner 2y ago
  This completely changes the chances that I'll buy this. I love the idea, but I just can't see myself ever buying an android device that is running Google's panopticon. I also noticed there's nothing on the product page about privacy, and was about to write this off as another nice gadget that I'd never be able to use. I'm very hopeful with an unlocked bootloader that the community will provide a more privacy-focused operating system so that I can enjoy this product.
  - boesboes 2y ago
    Same for me, if your product asks me to login with google I'm out. Just out. I've considered, for instance, getting a fair phone. But the only way to get a pre-de-googled one is through a third party at a 20% premium..
    - Vinnl 2y ago
      If an unlocked bootloader would satisfy you for this device, then surely the Fairphone should be good for you too? At least for the FP4, you don't even need the CLI or anything - just install the desktop app [1], connect your phone, and run the app. [1] https://doc.e.foundation/easy-installer https://doc.e.foundation/easy-installer
    - rebeccaskinner 2y ago
      I'm currently using an old iPhone, but my plan once it finally dies is to buy a pixel phone and immediately wipe it and install Graphene. It seems really weird to buy a google device if I want better privacy, but based on the research I've done it really does seem like the best option if you value privacy, are willing to deal with a little bit of pain to get privacy, but also need a phone that can at least sometimes do things like run banking apps that force you into the panopticon of bullshit. I know you specifically said pre-de-googled, but as you said it seems like the options there are really bad, but graphene does seem to make it pretty easy to install (although I haven't actually tried it yet).
- VagabundoP 2y ago
  Another massive plus. World needs more boot loader unlocked devices. I imagine you’ll get Linux distributions within a week or so.
- Aachen 2y ago
  Let me know when it's out! —Owner of a bricked e-ink device
lights0123 2y ago
I've used vim from the reMarkable and a C interpreter in a root shell when my laptop was broken. On-screen keyboard wasn't the best experience though
JoelMcCracken 2y ago
I haven't done a ton of usage outdoors, but my boox max lumi works for this. IIUC the android it runs is "unlocked" so I think you could use it as a computer if you wanted. I use it as a tablet and a monitor.
mdp2021 2y ago
> One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove That would be any Android tabled - supposedly E-Ink based - with Termux installed...
- freedomben 2y ago
  Yes, although to satisfy my dream of vim in the forest grove, that vim needs to be capable of opening and writing every (text) file on the filesystem, meaning it needs root
  - thot_experiment 2y ago
    100% this, it's a computer let me compute.

Can I run my own software on it? I would love to buy an epaper portable of some sort, but the fact that they're all locked down is a no go. One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove.

boochiboo12 2y ago

yup yes, we will release a bootloader unlock tool so you can do whatever you want

dugite-code 2y ago
If you really do this it would be a fantastic incentive for me. Just knowing the community can tinker makes a product feel more my own rather than "rented" like some systems out there.
evanphx 2y ago
Upon hearing this (and seeing the software that you've got listed on the website) I went and bought one. Looks great!
thot_experiment 2y ago
I would sign up for a mailing list for when this is available, I will probably actually buy one if it's android with root.
pcdoodle 2y ago
This will be a "killer feature" for the crowd here for many reasons. This product would also make for a classy home automation tablet.
ddingus 2y ago
THANK YOU! There is so much hardware out there people could be hacking on, improving, repressing all wasted due to difficulty loading new code. A coworker was given a SONY e-ink device. We quite like it, but the included firmware is limited and dependent on a windows app that leaves a lot to be desired. This is early hardware that was given the SONY treatment. That means great enclosure and ergonomics, but also conservative use of the display and goofy proprietary interfaces. Would not take much to make the device a lot more useful. One day, we will circle around and be talking about these already solid devices and how in-demand they remain despite their age because of your great decision. Sidebar: I really want one, but am price constrained at the moment. (Too bad, so sad for me!) Will the production models see an equally open configuration? Hope so. Thanks again.
lambdaxyzw 2y ago
Just pitching in to say this is also very important to me.
barnabee 2y ago
This got you another order
Zuiii 2y ago
okay, now I'm very interested.
rebeccaskinner 2y ago
This completely changes the chances that I'll buy this. I love the idea, but I just can't see myself ever buying an android device that is running Google's panopticon. I also noticed there's nothing on the product page about privacy, and was about to write this off as another nice gadget that I'd never be able to use. I'm very hopeful with an unlocked bootloader that the community will provide a more privacy-focused operating system so that I can enjoy this product.
- boesboes 2y ago
  Same for me, if your product asks me to login with google I'm out. Just out. I've considered, for instance, getting a fair phone. But the only way to get a pre-de-googled one is through a third party at a 20% premium..
  - Vinnl 2y ago
    If an unlocked bootloader would satisfy you for this device, then surely the Fairphone should be good for you too? At least for the FP4, you don't even need the CLI or anything - just install the desktop app [1], connect your phone, and run the app. [1] https://doc.e.foundation/easy-installer https://doc.e.foundation/easy-installer
  - rebeccaskinner 2y ago
    I'm currently using an old iPhone, but my plan once it finally dies is to buy a pixel phone and immediately wipe it and install Graphene. It seems really weird to buy a google device if I want better privacy, but based on the research I've done it really does seem like the best option if you value privacy, are willing to deal with a little bit of pain to get privacy, but also need a phone that can at least sometimes do things like run banking apps that force you into the panopticon of bullshit. I know you specifically said pre-de-googled, but as you said it seems like the options there are really bad, but graphene does seem to make it pretty easy to install (although I haven't actually tried it yet).
VagabundoP 2y ago
Another massive plus. World needs more boot loader unlocked devices. I imagine you’ll get Linux distributions within a week or so.
Aachen 2y ago
Let me know when it's out! —Owner of a bricked e-ink device

lights0123 2y ago

I've used vim from the reMarkable and a C interpreter in a root shell when my laptop was broken. On-screen keyboard wasn't the best experience though

JoelMcCracken 2y ago

I haven't done a ton of usage outdoors, but my boox max lumi works for this. IIUC the android it runs is "unlocked" so I think you could use it as a computer if you wanted. I use it as a tablet and a monitor.

mdp2021 2y ago

> One day I'll live my dream of vim in the forest grove That would be any Android tabled - supposedly E-Ink based - with Termux installed...

freedomben 2y ago
Yes, although to satisfy my dream of vim in the forest grove, that vim needs to be capable of opening and writing every (text) file on the filesystem, meaning it needs root
- thot_experiment 2y ago
  100% this, it's a computer let me compute.