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Links to all of the sources, mostly US government docs, about the Liberty https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1D9Zaet2ypKD7H6gyxYtUMfkYOJEGP74I/mobilebasic

Links to all of the sources, mostly US government docs, about the Liberty https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1D9Zaet2ypKD7H6gyxYtUMfkYOJEGP74I/mobilebasic https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1D9Zaet2ypKD7H6gyxYtU... One source of many about targeting journalists for over two decades https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/middleeast/israel-military-journalists-killed-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/middleeast/israel-military-jo... One source on IDF killing indiscriminately https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/02/middleeast/israel-bombing-family-gaza-investigation-intl-cmd/ https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/02/middleeast/israel-bo... And for some extra flavor have a few sources on the IDF posting videos of their abuse of Palestinians https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-09/ty-article-magazine/.premium/growing-number-of-idf-soldiers-are-documenting-and-posting-their-own-abuse-of-palestinians/0000018b-ae60-dea2-a9bf-fefe96070000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-09/ty-article-ma... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/idf-posting-abuse-footage-despite-pledge-to-act/ar-BB1mxHMU https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/idf-posting-abuse-foota... Are these actions that of the "most moral army"? These things are easily googlable yet you haven't bothered to do the slightest bit of reading before dismissing the claims outright. Even the US president had said that the attack on the Liberty was 100% intentional while knowing it was a US vessel

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- alan-hn 2y ago
  I didn't realize that western values included apartheid regimes oppressing people. The examples show that this has been going on for a lot longer than Hamas has existed and that Israel is always the aggressor Are you fine with Israel knowingly and purposefully attacking and killing US naval officers? First you said I was spewing bullshit which implies falsehoods, but now the things I claim are true but they're just fine? That's nuts You say they share western values, does that include freedom of the press? Do we kill journalists purposefully in the western world? Which values, precisely, are you referring to? Because I don't see them Unless you mean to say that they aren't Muslim, which is what I see from a lot of the Zionist crowd Not to mention, it isn't about the values of Hamas but the value of the lives of the Palestinian people. Israel has been oppressing and killing them for decades
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      History such as how we needed Israel as opposition to other countries that would potentially align with the USSR? The USSR that no longer exists? Here's a video based on US government documentation about the liberty and some of the history of Israeli lobbyists going back to the 1960s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk On the topic of people cheering on death and slaughter, how about Israelis? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-crowds-chant-racist-slogans-taunt-palestinians-during-jerusalem-day-march https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-crowds-chant-raci... Is that the kind of value that you align with? People cheering on the oppression and slaughter within an apartheid state funded by your and my tax dollars https://www.btselem.org/apartheid https://www.btselem.org/apartheid We can wax poetic all we want about history but we need to live in the present and not fund ethnic cleansing

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alan-hn 2y ago
I didn't realize that western values included apartheid regimes oppressing people. The examples show that this has been going on for a lot longer than Hamas has existed and that Israel is always the aggressor Are you fine with Israel knowingly and purposefully attacking and killing US naval officers? First you said I was spewing bullshit which implies falsehoods, but now the things I claim are true but they're just fine? That's nuts You say they share western values, does that include freedom of the press? Do we kill journalists purposefully in the western world? Which values, precisely, are you referring to? Because I don't see them Unless you mean to say that they aren't Muslim, which is what I see from a lot of the Zionist crowd Not to mention, it isn't about the values of Hamas but the value of the lives of the Palestinian people. Israel has been oppressing and killing them for decades
- mhb 2y ago
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  - alan-hn 2y ago
    History such as how we needed Israel as opposition to other countries that would potentially align with the USSR? The USSR that no longer exists? Here's a video based on US government documentation about the liberty and some of the history of Israeli lobbyists going back to the 1960s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk On the topic of people cheering on death and slaughter, how about Israelis? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-crowds-chant-racist-slogans-taunt-palestinians-during-jerusalem-day-march https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-crowds-chant-raci... Is that the kind of value that you align with? People cheering on the oppression and slaughter within an apartheid state funded by your and my tax dollars https://www.btselem.org/apartheid https://www.btselem.org/apartheid We can wax poetic all we want about history but we need to live in the present and not fund ethnic cleansing