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The interesting thing (to me) about Nostr is that it let's people actually own their data in a relatively accessible/simple way. It's by far the simplest implem

by bogwog 2y ago

The interesting thing (to me) about Nostr is that it let's people actually own their data in a relatively accessible/simple way. It's by far the simplest implementation of these modern decentralized protocols I've seen, and that's awesome. But censorship resistance and decentralization are not really a problem for most people, and it definitely isn't a unique selling point. Also, I always say this when Nostr comes up, but the stench of Bitcoin is hard to rub off. No matter how cool the protocol is, every Nostr community is pretty much filled to the brim with cryptocurrency people. At this point, everyone knows someone who has been scammed by crypto, so the association does not instill confidence. (Plus if we're talking social networks, hyper focused nerd communities are incredibly boring to most people)

cwiggs 2y ago
Most people on Nostr are pro Bitcoin, not pro cryptocurrency. Bitcoin and crypto are not the same. There have been tons of scams in crypto, but not in Bitcoin. Sure there were people who created a scam and told people to send them their Bitcoin (Blockfi, Celsius, Netflix doc "Bitconned"), but that isn't the same as the crypto scams. The Bitcoin core devs never created a token and then ran a pump and dump. It's like saying someone scammed someone with USD, therefore USD is a scam.
- goatmeal 2y ago
  bitcoin is a cryptocurrency. this idea that bitcoin isn't crypto is relatively new and only bitcoin maximalists actually believe it. the industry certainly has moral people who behave themselves and they're not all bitcoin maximalists. it doesn't actually do any good to try to set bitcoin apart in an attempt to appeal to public sentiment. it just makes the whole thing reek of sectarian quarreling.
  - janandonly 2y ago
    If a snake oil salesman scams you out of dollars, what do you call that? A dollar scam or a snake oil scam? If a scammer asks you to send bitcoin in exchange for xyz which is never delivered or worthless, is it a Bitcoin or an xyz scam?
- bogwog 2y ago
  LOL

by bogwog 2y ago

cwiggs 2y ago

Most people on Nostr are pro Bitcoin, not pro cryptocurrency. Bitcoin and crypto are not the same. There have been tons of scams in crypto, but not in Bitcoin. Sure there were people who created a scam and told people to send them their Bitcoin (Blockfi, Celsius, Netflix doc "Bitconned"), but that isn't the same as the crypto scams. The Bitcoin core devs never created a token and then ran a pump and dump. It's like saying someone scammed someone with USD, therefore USD is a scam.

goatmeal 2y ago
bitcoin is a cryptocurrency. this idea that bitcoin isn't crypto is relatively new and only bitcoin maximalists actually believe it. the industry certainly has moral people who behave themselves and they're not all bitcoin maximalists. it doesn't actually do any good to try to set bitcoin apart in an attempt to appeal to public sentiment. it just makes the whole thing reek of sectarian quarreling.
- janandonly 2y ago
  If a snake oil salesman scams you out of dollars, what do you call that? A dollar scam or a snake oil scam? If a scammer asks you to send bitcoin in exchange for xyz which is never delivered or worthless, is it a Bitcoin or an xyz scam?
bogwog 2y ago
LOL