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DDG relying on bing for doing searches is... strange to me. I feel like I've seen its own web crawler in my access logs

WhereIsTheTruth 2y ago
NSA needs backup, when people wants to remain "private" ;)
NikkiA 2y ago
It's other ! commands still work though, so !g will work as a backup or even !yandex if you feel that way inclined (and don't mind answering endless captchas
- gitaarik 2y ago
  yeah of course that works because that just redirects to to another site
beretguy 2y ago
Yeah, I knew they rely on Bing but didn’t know this much. This really makes me not want to use ddg anymore. I’m seriously considering just paying $108/year to Kagi.
- biglyburrito 2y ago
  You don't have to go straight to the Professional ($108/year, unlimited searches) plan. There's also the Trial (free, 100 searches one-time) and Starter ($5/month, 3600 searches per year) plans, to help you figure out if it's worth spending for the unlimited plan. Once I hit 3600 searches & was faced with the prospect of either going back to DuckDuckGo & Google to provide inferior search results -OR- paying $108/year for Kagi, it made the choice pretty simple. But it took me a few months to get to that point, and I don't think I spent more than $15 in that time figuring out if Kagi was right for me.
  - beretguy 2y ago
    I am already on $5 plan and it’s definitely worth it. I was able to find things that neither ddg nor brave could.
marginalia_nu 2y ago
Most alternative search engines are backed by either Google or Bing. Some have their own indexes as well, but it's rare to see a fully independent search engine.
- biglyburrito 2y ago
  Kagi is indie & works just fine, because it doesn't leverage either Google or Bing. IMO it works as well as Google used to, back when it didn't serve up SEO-tuned garbage or straight-up malware sites in its first pages. https://kagi.com https://kagi.com
  - marginalia_nu 2y ago
    That isn't true at all, it uses a bunch of different providers (including my own search engine). "Our search results also include anonymized API calls to all major search result providers worldwide" - https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...

NSA needs backup, when people wants to remain "private" ;)

It's other ! commands still work though, so !g will work as a backup or even !yandex if you feel that way inclined (and don't mind answering endless captchas

gitaarik 2y ago
yeah of course that works because that just redirects to to another site

beretguy 2y ago

Yeah, I knew they rely on Bing but didn’t know this much. This really makes me not want to use ddg anymore. I’m seriously considering just paying $108/year to Kagi.

biglyburrito 2y ago
You don't have to go straight to the Professional ($108/year, unlimited searches) plan. There's also the Trial (free, 100 searches one-time) and Starter ($5/month, 3600 searches per year) plans, to help you figure out if it's worth spending for the unlimited plan. Once I hit 3600 searches & was faced with the prospect of either going back to DuckDuckGo & Google to provide inferior search results -OR- paying $108/year for Kagi, it made the choice pretty simple. But it took me a few months to get to that point, and I don't think I spent more than $15 in that time figuring out if Kagi was right for me.
- beretguy 2y ago
  I am already on $5 plan and it’s definitely worth it. I was able to find things that neither ddg nor brave could.

marginalia_nu 2y ago

Most alternative search engines are backed by either Google or Bing. Some have their own indexes as well, but it's rare to see a fully independent search engine.

biglyburrito 2y ago
Kagi is indie & works just fine, because it doesn't leverage either Google or Bing. IMO it works as well as Google used to, back when it didn't serve up SEO-tuned garbage or straight-up malware sites in its first pages. https://kagi.com https://kagi.com
- marginalia_nu 2y ago
  That isn't true at all, it uses a bunch of different providers (including my own search engine). "Our search results also include anonymized API calls to all major search result providers worldwide" - https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...