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> it's that particularly breathy, chatty, voice that she performed for the movie. Good luck proving that in court. “You’re honor our evidence is that the audi

by Havoc 2y ago

> it's that particularly breathy, chatty, voice that she performed for the movie. Good luck proving that in court. “You’re honor our evidence is that the audio clips both sound breathy”

eschneider 2y ago
That and repeated, rejected attempts to hire ScarJo to do the voice. I expect they have ample documentation on that.
- CaptainFever 2y ago
  Did you not read the article? They did the voice months before that.
  - chx 2y ago
    Then why did they ask her two days prior launch? A potential jury would be very, very curious knowing that.
    - IanCal 2y ago
      A very simple answer is that they also wanted SJ as a voice. That doesn't mean the original voice was trying to copy SJ. They had a voice, the natural comparison watching the interaction is to Her, and they there is likely still time to get actually SJs voice before a public rollout.
      - chx 2y ago
        If you believe a known conman like Sam Altman didn't intend to steal SJ's voice I have a bridge to sell you. See my comment from yesterday re him being a known conman: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40435120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40435120
        kaashif 2y ago
        I find this whole thing very confusing because I never thought the voices sounded identical or very similar. I was initially even more confused about this whole thing because I thought I couldn't find clips of the SJ AI voice only to realize I had but it didn't sound like her. This opinion is independent of Sam being a conman, scammer, creepy Worldcoin weirdo, and so on.
        Havoc 2y ago
        It’s not about what you believe but rather what you can prove
      - XorNot 2y ago
        In particular, I'm pretty sure you can bake a voice model well enough for a canned demo in two days given we have cloning algs which will do it with 15 seconds of samples. Production ready? Probably not, but demos don't have to be.
sanderjd 2y ago
I may be wrong, but I believe this case would be made to a jury, not to a judge. I think it would be hard to seat a jury that, after laying out the facts about the attempts to hire Johansen, and the tweet at the time of release, would have even one person credulous enough to be convinced this was all an honest mix-up. Which is why it will never in a million years go to a trial.

by Havoc 2y ago

> it's that particularly breathy, chatty, voice that she performed for the movie. Good luck proving that in court. “You’re honor our evidence is that the audio clips both sound breathy”

eschneider 2y ago

That and repeated, rejected attempts to hire ScarJo to do the voice. I expect they have ample documentation on that.

CaptainFever 2y ago
Did you not read the article? They did the voice months before that.
- chx 2y ago
  Then why did they ask her two days prior launch? A potential jury would be very, very curious knowing that.
  - IanCal 2y ago
    A very simple answer is that they also wanted SJ as a voice. That doesn't mean the original voice was trying to copy SJ. They had a voice, the natural comparison watching the interaction is to Her, and they there is likely still time to get actually SJs voice before a public rollout.
    - chx 2y ago
      If you believe a known conman like Sam Altman didn't intend to steal SJ's voice I have a bridge to sell you. See my comment from yesterday re him being a known conman: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40435120 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40435120
      - kaashif 2y ago
        I find this whole thing very confusing because I never thought the voices sounded identical or very similar. I was initially even more confused about this whole thing because I thought I couldn't find clips of the SJ AI voice only to realize I had but it didn't sound like her. This opinion is independent of Sam being a conman, scammer, creepy Worldcoin weirdo, and so on.
      - Havoc 2y ago
        It’s not about what you believe but rather what you can prove
    - XorNot 2y ago
      In particular, I'm pretty sure you can bake a voice model well enough for a canned demo in two days given we have cloning algs which will do it with 15 seconds of samples. Production ready? Probably not, but demos don't have to be.

sanderjd 2y ago

I may be wrong, but I believe this case would be made to a jury, not to a judge. I think it would be hard to seat a jury that, after laying out the facts about the attempts to hire Johansen, and the tweet at the time of release, would have even one person credulous enough to be convinced this was all an honest mix-up. Which is why it will never in a million years go to a trial.