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Imaging this to be such a legal minefield, can't sell my own voice because a celeb sounds a bit alike as my own voice.

moralestapia 2y ago
Exactly, that would be absolutely nonsensical.
nhinck3 2y ago
You can sell your voice to whoever you want. What you can't do is USE that voice in a way that seeks to mislead (by however much) people into believing it is someone else. I'm really not sure why people can't understand that it is intent that matters.
- flanked-evergl 2y ago
  I don't think OpenAI wants people to think ChatGPT 4 or whatever is Scarlett Johansson, that would not make any sense.
  - nhinck3 2y ago
    Then what were OpenAI hoping to get out of their association with her? Why go to the effort of getting in contact? Why reference the film Her?
    - flanked-evergl 2y ago
      What is the angle here? They tell people that it's Scarlett Johansson responding to them instead of a computer? To what end? I just don't get it. And I think anyone who confuses a computer program for a real person has bigger problems than being potentially defrauded by OpenAI. And people have been making computers sound like humans without anyone suggesting that it's some attempt at fraud for very long.
      - nhinck3 2y ago
        The angle is that most people understand the value of celebrity endorsement? And that OpenAI is seeking the endorsement that would come along with association with Scarlett Johansson and the movie Her?
      - CRConrad 2y ago
        > What is the angle here? They tell people that it's Scarlett Johansson responding to them instead of a computer? To what end? I just don't get it. Then don't worry about it. It doesn't matter anyway. Ponder the questions in the comment you replied to in stead; the ones you evaded by asking these irrelevant ones.
    - kobalsky 2y ago
      They contacted her to use her voice. I mean, the Sky voice doesn't sound like Scarlet Johansson. > Why reference the film Her? Because they developed an AI some people is bonding with. Which is the bigger deal? The voice or the AI, you tell me.
- johnbellone 2y ago
  There’s a certain group of people on this site that do not want to OpenAI, Apple, and others, to have done wrong.
hnlmorg 2y ago
You wouldn’t be the one liable. Any company that hired you might be liable if you sound like a famous voice and the more famous individual had already declined using their voice. The company would also be liable if they used your voice and claimed it was someone more famous. Ultimately you’re not liable for having a similar voice because you’re not trying to fool people you’re someone else. It’s the company that hired you who’s doing that. This is why tribute acts and impressionists are fine…as long as they are clear they’re not the original artist
marcus_holmes 2y ago
A celeb creates a particular voice personality for a role as an AI in a very successful movie. You create an AI, and "co-incidentally" create a strikingly similar voice personality for your AI. Not a legal minefield, you copied the movie, you owe them. They could have used any accent, any tone, anyone. Literally anyone else. And it would have been fine. But they obviously copied the movie even if they used a different actress.
- czl 2y ago
  Yes they tried to copy film Her yet the voice ai character in the film you think was original? No other films predate that film with female AI voices? And would the actor have claim on the fictional character they played in the film vs film “owners”?
  - marcus_holmes 2y ago
    Obviously there have been lots of female voices for AIs in movies. But not all of them sound the same. OpenAI could have created a new voice personality for their AI by hiring almost any female voice actress available. But they didn't. They chose to copy Her.
    - czl 2y ago
      Listen to the voices side by side: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1cwy6wz/vocal_comparison_scarjo_vs_samantha_vs_sky/l4z9726/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1cwy6wz/vocal_comp... And here is voice of another actress ( Rashida Jones ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385414AVZcA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385414AVZcA which actress do you think is similar to the openAI sky voice?
      - marcus_holmes 2y ago
        Which sounds more like Johansson's voice on Her, the Sky voice, or Emma Watson? Again, given the vast range of voices (even female voices) available, choosing one that sounds so close to Her, given the subject matter of the film (and the OpenAI leadership's references to the film), this is not coincidence.
can16358p 2y ago
Because of laws and regulations like these, innovation is getting slower and slower. I'm afraid the whole world will get regulated like EU someday, crippling innovation to a point that everyone's afraid to break a law that they aren't even aware of, and stop innovating.

Exactly, that would be absolutely nonsensical.

You can sell your voice to whoever you want. What you can't do is USE that voice in a way that seeks to mislead (by however much) people into believing it is someone else. I'm really not sure why people can't understand that it is intent that matters.

flanked-evergl 2y ago
I don't think OpenAI wants people to think ChatGPT 4 or whatever is Scarlett Johansson, that would not make any sense.
- nhinck3 2y ago
  Then what were OpenAI hoping to get out of their association with her? Why go to the effort of getting in contact? Why reference the film Her?
  - flanked-evergl 2y ago
    What is the angle here? They tell people that it's Scarlett Johansson responding to them instead of a computer? To what end? I just don't get it. And I think anyone who confuses a computer program for a real person has bigger problems than being potentially defrauded by OpenAI. And people have been making computers sound like humans without anyone suggesting that it's some attempt at fraud for very long.
    - nhinck3 2y ago
      The angle is that most people understand the value of celebrity endorsement? And that OpenAI is seeking the endorsement that would come along with association with Scarlett Johansson and the movie Her?
    - CRConrad 2y ago
      > What is the angle here? They tell people that it's Scarlett Johansson responding to them instead of a computer? To what end? I just don't get it. Then don't worry about it. It doesn't matter anyway. Ponder the questions in the comment you replied to in stead; the ones you evaded by asking these irrelevant ones.
  - kobalsky 2y ago
    They contacted her to use her voice. I mean, the Sky voice doesn't sound like Scarlet Johansson. > Why reference the film Her? Because they developed an AI some people is bonding with. Which is the bigger deal? The voice or the AI, you tell me.
johnbellone 2y ago
There’s a certain group of people on this site that do not want to OpenAI, Apple, and others, to have done wrong.

hnlmorg 2y ago

You wouldn’t be the one liable. Any company that hired you might be liable if you sound like a famous voice and the more famous individual had already declined using their voice. The company would also be liable if they used your voice and claimed it was someone more famous. Ultimately you’re not liable for having a similar voice because you’re not trying to fool people you’re someone else. It’s the company that hired you who’s doing that. This is why tribute acts and impressionists are fine…as long as they are clear they’re not the original artist

marcus_holmes 2y ago

A celeb creates a particular voice personality for a role as an AI in a very successful movie. You create an AI, and "co-incidentally" create a strikingly similar voice personality for your AI. Not a legal minefield, you copied the movie, you owe them. They could have used any accent, any tone, anyone. Literally anyone else. And it would have been fine. But they obviously copied the movie even if they used a different actress.

czl 2y ago
Yes they tried to copy film Her yet the voice ai character in the film you think was original? No other films predate that film with female AI voices? And would the actor have claim on the fictional character they played in the film vs film “owners”?
- marcus_holmes 2y ago
  Obviously there have been lots of female voices for AIs in movies. But not all of them sound the same. OpenAI could have created a new voice personality for their AI by hiring almost any female voice actress available. But they didn't. They chose to copy Her.
  - czl 2y ago
    Listen to the voices side by side: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1cwy6wz/vocal_comparison_scarjo_vs_samantha_vs_sky/l4z9726/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1cwy6wz/vocal_comp... And here is voice of another actress ( Rashida Jones ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385414AVZcA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=385414AVZcA which actress do you think is similar to the openAI sky voice?
    - marcus_holmes 2y ago
      Which sounds more like Johansson's voice on Her, the Sky voice, or Emma Watson? Again, given the vast range of voices (even female voices) available, choosing one that sounds so close to Her, given the subject matter of the film (and the OpenAI leadership's references to the film), this is not coincidence.

can16358p 2y ago

Because of laws and regulations like these, innovation is getting slower and slower. I'm afraid the whole world will get regulated like EU someday, crippling innovation to a point that everyone's afraid to break a law that they aren't even aware of, and stop innovating.