How can you argue that both "tied to the web" and "frameworks" are benefits, yet keep a straight face? Frameworks in any language plug the language into the we

How can you argue that both "tied to the web" and "frameworks" are benefits, yet keep a straight face? Frameworks in any language plug the language into the web—that's what they exist to do. And if you're using the parts of PHP that are tied to the web, then you must not be using a framework, or those would surely be wrapped. ...but those parts of PHP must suck, or you wouldn't need to use a framework! So then... PHP is good because it solves the problems it causes? I don't get it.