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Why on earth would you want to read the comments? It's not like the bad old days where they only displayed the ones written by the angriest people to ever live

Why on earth would you want to read the comments? It's not like the bad old days where they only displayed the ones written by the angriest people to ever live, now they're just whichever people are willing so suck up to the creator the hardest.

paulddraper 2y ago
> where they only displayed the ones written by the angriest people to ever live https://xkcd.com/202/ https://xkcd.com/202/
b112 2y ago
I wonder if Google is going to kill us all, with that comment change. Before the mega-angry were posting such comments, and youtube was absorbing it as some sort of great heat sync. Now, the comments are gone, and the angry crazys will return to the streets, the villages, and this anger will flow into violence, war, nuclear annihilation.
- nrml_amnt 2y ago
  Local news site comment sections are our last hope.
WheatMillington 2y ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one to be bothered by this. I watch a lot of interesting videos by smart people and clever makers, so I want to see some intelligent discussion in the comments. But every single comment is "omg you're SUCH a greater content creator!! Why don't you have more subs you're soo amazing!!". It's completely asinine and valueless.
burningChrome 2y ago
>> Why on earth would you want to read the comments? I do. I really only use YouTube for specific stuff these days. Mainly tutorials from people in the sports/activities I am active in - rock climbing, hockey, hiking, rucking, mountain biking and snowboarding. I also really only use it for product reviews for stuff like backpacks, snowboards, technology reviews, etc. I read the comments while I'm watching the videos to see what other people are saying about say, a certain pack I'm interested in. Most of the people commenting have either bought or have had said product and their two cents (good or bad) is generally reliable. Its not people sucking up to the creators, its just more opinions I can use to determine if this product or service is worth it. I do this frequently with hi-fi equipment since there are some really good YT reviewers out there for beginners just getting into hi-fi. Or like myself, getting back into it. If nothing else, the comments give me a more well rounded view of whatever it is I'm looking at.
lupusreal 2y ago
The quality of the comments reflects the quality of the content. Insightful and thoughtful videos tend to have insightful and thoughtful comments. Low brow videos have low brow comments. Ragebait videos have rageful comments. If all you see is shitty comments, I'm afraid that says a lot about what you watch.
- im3w1l 2y ago
  The insightful videos I see mostly have comments like "thanks xxx this video was super helpful". Which I guess is nice and polite and models good behavior. But it also doesn't add much value for me.
- lolinder 2y ago
  Eh, insightful and thoughtful videos tend to have better comments than the low brow videos, but they're still not useful. The best of them read like a decent-but-not-great subreddit's comment thread. Taking one example, 3Blue1Brown's Deep Learning series, episode 6. Here are the top few comments [0]: > I'm a university lecturer with a PhD in AI, and I cannot compete with the quality of this work. Videos like this put the entire higher education system to shame. Fantastic! This is a nice comment, but doesn't contribute anything to my day. I'm sure the creator is glad to see it and I'm glad someone said it, but I don't need to read it. > Are you kidding me? ONE WEEK FOR 2 MASTERPIECES?! > Thank you so much! Same story. > I've got to say - "Attention Is All You Need" is an incredible title for a research paper. And now we're down to the reddit comments. > As a graduating PhD student working in Natural Language Processing, I still found that video to be extremely beneficial. Awesome! Nice. > 3b1b is the only content producer whose videos I start by first making coffee, then upvoting, then hitting the play button. Nice. > Attention existed before the 2017 paper "Attention Is All You Need". > The main contribution was that attention was... all you needed for sequence processing (you didn't need recurrence). Self-attention specifically was novel though. Finally a comment that contributed something. Not much, mind you (the video doesn't actually claim otherwise), but something. Unfortunately, that's it. I kept scrolling for a while longer through pages and pages of thank-yous. And that's typically my experience with comments on thoughtful videos. It's not usually like the HN comments where you can actually get a lot of value from the comments alone, they're just... shallow. Sometimes nice shallow, but still shallow. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMlx5fFNoYc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMlx5fFNoYc
spartanatreyu 2y ago
> Why on earth would you want to read the comments? Because after Youtube themselves made the most corpo-speak video which became the most downvoted video in history[1], they removed their downvote feature. Now you need to be able to read the comments of each video to see whenever someone releases a scam or has made a major error or correction in their video. ------------------------------------- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_Controls_Rewind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_...

paulddraper 2y ago

> where they only displayed the ones written by the angriest people to ever live https://xkcd.com/202/ https://xkcd.com/202/

b112 2y ago

I wonder if Google is going to kill us all, with that comment change. Before the mega-angry were posting such comments, and youtube was absorbing it as some sort of great heat sync. Now, the comments are gone, and the angry crazys will return to the streets, the villages, and this anger will flow into violence, war, nuclear annihilation.

nrml_amnt 2y ago
Local news site comment sections are our last hope.

WheatMillington 2y ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one to be bothered by this. I watch a lot of interesting videos by smart people and clever makers, so I want to see some intelligent discussion in the comments. But every single comment is "omg you're SUCH a greater content creator!! Why don't you have more subs you're soo amazing!!". It's completely asinine and valueless.

burningChrome 2y ago

>> Why on earth would you want to read the comments? I do. I really only use YouTube for specific stuff these days. Mainly tutorials from people in the sports/activities I am active in - rock climbing, hockey, hiking, rucking, mountain biking and snowboarding. I also really only use it for product reviews for stuff like backpacks, snowboards, technology reviews, etc. I read the comments while I'm watching the videos to see what other people are saying about say, a certain pack I'm interested in. Most of the people commenting have either bought or have had said product and their two cents (good or bad) is generally reliable. Its not people sucking up to the creators, its just more opinions I can use to determine if this product or service is worth it. I do this frequently with hi-fi equipment since there are some really good YT reviewers out there for beginners just getting into hi-fi. Or like myself, getting back into it. If nothing else, the comments give me a more well rounded view of whatever it is I'm looking at.

lupusreal 2y ago

The quality of the comments reflects the quality of the content. Insightful and thoughtful videos tend to have insightful and thoughtful comments. Low brow videos have low brow comments. Ragebait videos have rageful comments. If all you see is shitty comments, I'm afraid that says a lot about what you watch.

im3w1l 2y ago
The insightful videos I see mostly have comments like "thanks xxx this video was super helpful". Which I guess is nice and polite and models good behavior. But it also doesn't add much value for me.
lolinder 2y ago
Eh, insightful and thoughtful videos tend to have better comments than the low brow videos, but they're still not useful. The best of them read like a decent-but-not-great subreddit's comment thread. Taking one example, 3Blue1Brown's Deep Learning series, episode 6. Here are the top few comments [0]: > I'm a university lecturer with a PhD in AI, and I cannot compete with the quality of this work. Videos like this put the entire higher education system to shame. Fantastic! This is a nice comment, but doesn't contribute anything to my day. I'm sure the creator is glad to see it and I'm glad someone said it, but I don't need to read it. > Are you kidding me? ONE WEEK FOR 2 MASTERPIECES?! > Thank you so much! Same story. > I've got to say - "Attention Is All You Need" is an incredible title for a research paper. And now we're down to the reddit comments. > As a graduating PhD student working in Natural Language Processing, I still found that video to be extremely beneficial. Awesome! Nice. > 3b1b is the only content producer whose videos I start by first making coffee, then upvoting, then hitting the play button. Nice. > Attention existed before the 2017 paper "Attention Is All You Need". > The main contribution was that attention was... all you needed for sequence processing (you didn't need recurrence). Self-attention specifically was novel though. Finally a comment that contributed something. Not much, mind you (the video doesn't actually claim otherwise), but something. Unfortunately, that's it. I kept scrolling for a while longer through pages and pages of thank-yous. And that's typically my experience with comments on thoughtful videos. It's not usually like the HN comments where you can actually get a lot of value from the comments alone, they're just... shallow. Sometimes nice shallow, but still shallow. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMlx5fFNoYc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMlx5fFNoYc

spartanatreyu 2y ago

> Why on earth would you want to read the comments? Because after Youtube themselves made the most corpo-speak video which became the most downvoted video in history[1], they removed their downvote feature. Now you need to be able to read the comments of each video to see whenever someone releases a scam or has made a major error or correction in their video. ------------------------------------- [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_Controls_Rewind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_...