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> When do we say "enough" to all of these death and just legalize opiates? That's not enough. You have to legalize everything with restrictions like cigarette

by bsder 2y ago

> When do we say "enough" to all of these death and just legalize opiates? That's not enough. You have to legalize everything with restrictions like cigarettes and alcohol. The problem is that fentanyl is so powerful that it contaminates everything. Consequently, you get people who bought drugs completely unrelated to fentanyl still overdosing from it (currently a problem in Austin, for example). You don't want random kids doing marijuana dying from fentanyl. The only way to avoid that it to clean up the manufacturing. And the only way to do that is to force it to be made in actual medical manufacturing facilities.

quickthrowman 2y ago
> Consequently, you get people who bought drugs completely unrelated to fentanyl still overdosing from it (currently a problem in Austin, for example). > You don't want random kids doing marijuana dying from fentanyl. Nobody is dying from fentanyl laced marijuana. However, people are dying due to buying and eating pills that contain fentanyl when they think they’re buying xanax or oxycontin. None of the fentanyl is accidentally in these pills. The manufacturer knows about the fentanyl, but the customer might not be aware. People have died from doing cocaine that had allegedly unknown fentanyl in it, as this news story details the deaths of three people who claimed to have done cocaine with unknown fentanyl in it: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-05/three-dead-of-overdose-early-saturday-morning https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-05/three-de...
- fragmede 2y ago
  The 4D chess game there is cartel B is undercutting cartel A. Cartel A gets wind of this and gets pissed. they get some of their guys to put fentanyl in their bricks, but instead of marketing it as coming from cartel A, they mark it with the cartel B stamp. voila, fentanyl-laced cocaine
- bsder 2y ago
  https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/news/2024/05/09/largest-fentanyl-spike-in-decade-puts-austin-on-high-alert https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/news/2024/05/09/larg... > “The thing that makes this surge so different than others is most of these people weren’t trying to take opioids,” Stedman said. “They were trying to use multiple different substances — crack cocaine, methamphetamine, K2.” They're not putting it in marijuana intentionally, as I understand it. It's simply so hard to keep from contaminating it that it is practically impossible to avoid the contamination.
notfed 2y ago
That's the point though. Most addicts don't want fentanyl, they want other opioids. If they could legally buy said product, they would. But they can't, so they buy the on the street, and they get the easiest drug to smuggle: fentanyl.

by bsder 2y ago

quickthrowman 2y ago

> Consequently, you get people who bought drugs completely unrelated to fentanyl still overdosing from it (currently a problem in Austin, for example). > You don't want random kids doing marijuana dying from fentanyl. Nobody is dying from fentanyl laced marijuana. However, people are dying due to buying and eating pills that contain fentanyl when they think they’re buying xanax or oxycontin. None of the fentanyl is accidentally in these pills. The manufacturer knows about the fentanyl, but the customer might not be aware. People have died from doing cocaine that had allegedly unknown fentanyl in it, as this news story details the deaths of three people who claimed to have done cocaine with unknown fentanyl in it: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-05/three-dead-of-overdose-early-saturday-morning https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-05/three-de...

fragmede 2y ago
The 4D chess game there is cartel B is undercutting cartel A. Cartel A gets wind of this and gets pissed. they get some of their guys to put fentanyl in their bricks, but instead of marketing it as coming from cartel A, they mark it with the cartel B stamp. voila, fentanyl-laced cocaine
bsder 2y ago
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/news/2024/05/09/largest-fentanyl-spike-in-decade-puts-austin-on-high-alert https://spectrumlocalnews.com/tx/austin/news/2024/05/09/larg... > “The thing that makes this surge so different than others is most of these people weren’t trying to take opioids,” Stedman said. “They were trying to use multiple different substances — crack cocaine, methamphetamine, K2.” They're not putting it in marijuana intentionally, as I understand it. It's simply so hard to keep from contaminating it that it is practically impossible to avoid the contamination.

notfed 2y ago

That's the point though. Most addicts don't want fentanyl, they want other opioids. If they could legally buy said product, they would. But they can't, so they buy the on the street, and they get the easiest drug to smuggle: fentanyl.