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It's still illegal even if you don't work for company A or B.

kortilla 2y ago
Not in the US. “Don’t trade on any information not known by everyone” is a much more strict version used in other countries. That stricter version destroys the incentive to short selling research firms.
- esprehn 2y ago
  That depends on how you learned of this otherwise MNPI. Insider trading can definitely be done by non-employees. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1164964/000101968715004168/globalfuture_8k-ex9904.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1164964/000101968715... """ An “insider” is an officer, director, 10% stockholder and anyone who possesses inside information because of his or her relationship with the Company or with an officer, director or principal stockholder of the Company. Rule 10b-5’s application goes considerably beyond just officers, directors and principal stockholders. This rule also covers any employee who has obtained material non-public corporate information, as well as any person who has received a “tip” from an Insider of the Company concerning information about the Company that is material and nonpublic, and trades (i.e. purchase or sells) the Company’s stock or other securities. This policy also applies to your family members who reside with you, anyone else who lives in your household, and family members who do not live in your household but whose securities transactions are directed by you or are subject to your influence or control, as well as trusts or other entities for which you make investment decisions. """
  - kortilla 2y ago
    Knowing things about another company that your company has a relationship with is not included in any of that. Those are all rules about tips from employees of the company with the security being traded.
  - whaleofatw2022 2y ago
    Here is the semi classic counterpoint. I heard about similar NVDA order backlogs when doing a 'I did this build with your salesman and the card doesn't fix, please let me get one that does' of a video card at Micro center during one of the crypto pumps. The employee claimed a 6-12 month backorder on high end cards. I didn't do anything with that info, but I'd I had, would not be insider trading.

Not in the US. “Don’t trade on any information not known by everyone” is a much more strict version used in other countries. That stricter version destroys the incentive to short selling research firms.

esprehn 2y ago
That depends on how you learned of this otherwise MNPI. Insider trading can definitely be done by non-employees. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1164964/000101968715004168/globalfuture_8k-ex9904.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1164964/000101968715... """ An “insider” is an officer, director, 10% stockholder and anyone who possesses inside information because of his or her relationship with the Company or with an officer, director or principal stockholder of the Company. Rule 10b-5’s application goes considerably beyond just officers, directors and principal stockholders. This rule also covers any employee who has obtained material non-public corporate information, as well as any person who has received a “tip” from an Insider of the Company concerning information about the Company that is material and nonpublic, and trades (i.e. purchase or sells) the Company’s stock or other securities. This policy also applies to your family members who reside with you, anyone else who lives in your household, and family members who do not live in your household but whose securities transactions are directed by you or are subject to your influence or control, as well as trusts or other entities for which you make investment decisions. """
- kortilla 2y ago
  Knowing things about another company that your company has a relationship with is not included in any of that. Those are all rules about tips from employees of the company with the security being traded.
- whaleofatw2022 2y ago
  Here is the semi classic counterpoint. I heard about similar NVDA order backlogs when doing a 'I did this build with your salesman and the card doesn't fix, please let me get one that does' of a video card at Micro center during one of the crypto pumps. The employee claimed a 6-12 month backorder on high end cards. I didn't do anything with that info, but I'd I had, would not be insider trading.