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The biggest problem is the cost. Actual storage cost is "meh" but... My god the absolute highway robbery of the bandwidth costs.

mjhay 2y ago
Amazon's profit margins on data transfer are out of this world, like probably > 80%. Data transfer costs are hard and confusing to predict (especially with different regions, etc), so it makes sense they'd gouge on it more than storage. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/05/how-amazon-web-services-makes-money-estimated-margins-by-service.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/05/how-amazon-web-services-make...
cageface 2y ago
Cloudflare R2 has an S3 compatible API and no egress costs.
- beeeeerp 2y ago
  I like Cloudflare, but this is also what makes me skeptical. There's no such thing as a free lunch, and I've had the rug pulled out from underneath me many times before. I wish they at least charged a sustainable amount for egress, because I feel like it's coming eventually.
  - cageface 2y ago
    Yeah you do have to wonder if this is destined for enshittification at some point. It does seem a bit to good to be true.
  - kondro 2y ago
    Supposedly it’s not applicable to R2, but their Enterprise egress pricing is around the $0.05/GB rate. They won’t contact you though until you start to get close to the $5,000/month usage level, which itself can be a problem as your fee goes from $0/month to $5,000/month. R2 still has per-request fees which, given PUTs are still $4.50/million and GETs $0.36/million (only about 10% off S3’s), they still have significant margin there to cover egress for objects of reasonable size.
    - beeeeerp 2y ago
      Yeah - I forgot about their opaque pricing tiers. One other benefit of paying up front is that I think you are less restricted on S3/Cloudfront in what you can host. I think Cloudflare has some restrictions (video files?) to keep costs more sane. Otherwise, you could spin up a YouTube clone extremely cheap. And just to reiterate, AWS pricing can be absurd.

mjhay 2y ago

Amazon's profit margins on data transfer are out of this world, like probably > 80%. Data transfer costs are hard and confusing to predict (especially with different regions, etc), so it makes sense they'd gouge on it more than storage. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/05/how-amazon-web-services-makes-money-estimated-margins-by-service.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/05/how-amazon-web-services-make...

cageface 2y ago

Cloudflare R2 has an S3 compatible API and no egress costs.

beeeeerp 2y ago
I like Cloudflare, but this is also what makes me skeptical. There's no such thing as a free lunch, and I've had the rug pulled out from underneath me many times before. I wish they at least charged a sustainable amount for egress, because I feel like it's coming eventually.
- cageface 2y ago
  Yeah you do have to wonder if this is destined for enshittification at some point. It does seem a bit to good to be true.
- kondro 2y ago
  Supposedly it’s not applicable to R2, but their Enterprise egress pricing is around the $0.05/GB rate. They won’t contact you though until you start to get close to the $5,000/month usage level, which itself can be a problem as your fee goes from $0/month to $5,000/month. R2 still has per-request fees which, given PUTs are still $4.50/million and GETs $0.36/million (only about 10% off S3’s), they still have significant margin there to cover egress for objects of reasonable size.
  - beeeeerp 2y ago
    Yeah - I forgot about their opaque pricing tiers. One other benefit of paying up front is that I think you are less restricted on S3/Cloudfront in what you can host. I think Cloudflare has some restrictions (video files?) to keep costs more sane. Otherwise, you could spin up a YouTube clone extremely cheap. And just to reiterate, AWS pricing can be absurd.